HawaiiThreads NFL Pick'em!

[scrivener]

I figure this will probably attract an even less-enthusiastic crowd than the rapidly-decreasing-in-popularity Hawaii Threads Trivia Game, but Manoasurfer123 and I both want to play, so if nobody else wants to jump in, it's totally fine. We'll be happy playing with ourselves. Or something like that.

There are a couple of nice prizes up for this one, too (donated by anonymous HTers who might or might not play), and you don't even have to know anything about football to play.

Each week, before the NFL games, I'll post the matchups. All you have to do is pick your winners, posting them as replies to this post. People who know little about the NFL will probably do best in the early weeks; there are surprises EVERY year, and the bozos who think they know football are always that last to buy-in on a come-from-nowhere team that makes the playoffs!

There are two ways to score: Either pick the most winners in a given week, or pick the most winners over the course of the season. At the end of the season, the winners will be the person who had the highest number of winning weeks and the person who had the overall cumulative highest number of winning picks.

Just pick your winners and you'll figure it out as we go along. And as I said: Manoa and I are totally happy just playing with ourselves, but it is more fun if others get on. Or something like that.

This week's matchups in the next post.


oh yeah, I almost forgot. The Monday Night game will be the weekly tie-breaker, so each week, post a predicted final score for that game only. For all the other games, just pick a winner. I'll go first, so you can see what I mean.

Are you ready for some football?

[lavagal]

Just put me down for Eagles every week, Scrivener!

Hey! What are YOU LOOKIN" AT? I've got yer football right HERE! Philly Iggles, yeah baby!!!

@;-)

[manoasurfer123]

Mahalo scrivener... I guess all other HT readers can thank him too... as I now have a new thread to rave on!!!!!! :p

Can i pre-pick the Seahawks now until the end of the season? :p

Seriously Scriv - thanks for taking this upon yourself...
and I bet we get at least get TimKona and even possibly Miulang involved...

Season is just beginning.... I'm game...

Mahalo scriv! (now I get to show everyone how stupid I am in something I love too :o )

[scrivener]

Here are the matchups for Week 1!

Miami Dolphins at Pittsburgh Steelers
Baltimore Ravens at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers
Denver Broncos at St. Louis Rams
Buffalo Bills at New England Patriots
Philadelphia Eagles at Houston Texans
New Orleans Saints at Cleveland Browns
Seattle Seahawks at Detroit Lions
NY Jets at Tennessee Titans
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers
Dallas Cowboys at Jacksonville Jaguars
San Francisco 49ers at Arizona Cardinals
Indianapolis Colts at NY Giants
Minnesota Vikings at Washington Redskins



Monday Night Game:
San Diego Chargers at Oakland Raiders

The season actually begins with the Dolphins and Steelers on Thursday night, but we won't count that one. If you get that pick right or wrong, you'll still get one point. Freebie.

Let's make the deadline 6:00 on Sunday morning.

[scrivener]

My picks for week 1

Miami Dolphins at Pittsburgh Steelers
Baltimore Ravens at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers
Denver Broncos at St. Louis Rams
Buffalo Bills at New England Patriots
Philadelphia Eagles at Houston Texans
New Orleans Saints at Cleveland Browns
Seattle Seahawks at Detroit Lions
NY Jets at Tennessee Titans
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers
Dallas Cowboys at Jacksonville Jaguars
San Francisco 49ers at Arizona Cardinals
Indianapolis Colts at NY Giants
Minnesota Vikings at Washington Redskins



Monday Night Game:
San Diego Chargers 20 at Oakland Raiders 24

I'll save the smack-talk for after the deadline.

[timkona]

Just got back from practice. Gosh I love football. I'm in. I might even throw in my condo in Hilo as a grand prize. Let me know Scriv.

Miami vs Pittsburgh Pittsburgh
Atlanta vs Carolina Carolina
Baltimore vs Tampa Bay Tampa Bay
Buffalo vs New England New England
Cincinnati vs Kansas City Cincinnati
Denver vs St Louis Denver
New Orleans vs Cleveland Cleveland
NY Jets vs Tennessee Tennessee (Go Jessie Mahelona)
Philadelphia vs Houston Philly
Seattle vs Detroit Seattle
Chicago vs Green Bay Green Bay
Dallas vs Jacksonville Dallas
San Francisco vs Arizona Arizona
Indianapolis vs NY Giants Indianapolis

Minnesota vs Washington Minnesota
San Diego vs Oakland OAKLAND RAIDERS ALL THE WAY !!
17 34

WOOO HOOOOOOOOOO IT'S FOOTBALL SEASON !!!

[manoasurfer123]

Miami Dolphins at Pittsburgh Steelers (steelers)
Baltimore Ravens at Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Bucs)
Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers (panthers)
Denver Broncos at St. Louis Rams (Broncos)
Buffalo Bills at New England Patriots (Patriots)
Philadelphia Eagles at Houston Texans (Eagles)
New Orleans Saints at Cleveland Browns (Browns)
Seattle Seahawks at Detroit Lions (SEAHAWKS By 14)
NY Jets at Tennessee Titans (Titans)
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs (Bengals...sleeper game of the week)
Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers (Bears in an upset)
Dallas Cowboys at Jacksonville Jaguars (Jaguars)
San Francisco 49ers at Arizona Cardinals (Cardinals in a rare opening win)
Indianapolis Colts at NY Giants (Giants...old favorite team)
Minnesota Vikings at Washington Redskins (Washington)



Monday Night Game:
San Diego Chargers at Oakland Raiders (Chargers 24 Raiders 17)

[scrivener]

Oh, let's do booby-prizes for the person who loses the most weeks and for the person who picks the most losers over the course of the season.

[Palama Kid]

After mucho concentration, here are my picks (with comments):

Miami Dolphins at Pittsburgh Steelers (Defense still good)
Baltimore Ravens at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers (Smith bettah play good)
Denver Broncos at St. Louis Rams (I like pick Denver, but . . . )
Buffalo Bills at New England Patriots (Pats no need Branch)
Philadelphia Eagles at Houston Texans (#1 draft pick make big impact)
New Orleans Saints at Cleveland Browns (Truss me, Bush no good)
Seattle Seahawks at Detroit Lions (Now, this pick is sooo stoopid)
NY Jets at Tennessee Titans (Barlow no make difference)
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers (Go, QB Fabares !!!)
Dallas Cowboys at Jacksonville Jaguars (TO throws tantrum)
San Francisco 49ers at Arizona Cardinals (This hurts me, real deep)
Indianapolis Colts at NY Giants (Indy no mo kickah)
Minnesota Vikings at Washington Redskins (Portis, come back !!)



Monday Night Game:
San Diego Chargers at Oakland Raiders 37-27 (Randy going catch 10 passes, 2 TDs)

[blueyecicle]

I'm rootiong for the Raiders and anyone playiong SeaHawks...but that is the criteria for living in Oregon :p And those are the only games I will sit through! :rolleyes:

[Surfingfarmboy]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Giants (Indy no mo kickah)

Hah? Indy no mo kickah? The last I heard was that they were now the proud owners of a legendary, larger than life in New England, kicker who won three Super Bowls ( 2 directly, one by the point margin of three points he kicked) for the New England Patriots. Pat fans up this way are missing him big time...they aren't just yet sold on the Gostkowski kid from Memphis. Oh, BTW...the kicker's name: Adam Vinatieri..in my view the greatest clutch kicker, in any conditions, any weather, of all time!

I'll have my picks in by 6AM HST...I don't make my picks up until the last second...you never know who is going on injured lists!

[pzarquon]

You know how in any "pick 'em" game, whether sports or stocks, they always have a monkey or pigeon or blindfolded dart thrower in the mix to serve as the control and comedic relief? Well, for week one, I'm that monkey.

Miami Dolphins at Pittsburgh Steelers
Baltimore Ravens at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers
Denver Broncos at St. Louis Rams
Buffalo Bills at New England Patriots
Philadelphia Eagles at Houston Texans
New Orleans Saints at Cleveland Browns
Seattle Seahawks at Detroit Lions
NY Jets at Tennessee Titans
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers
Dallas Cowboys at Jacksonville Jaguars
San Francisco 49ers at Arizona Cardinals
Indianapolis Colts at NY Giants
Minnesota Vikings at Washington Redskins

Monday Night Game:
San Diego Chargers at Oakland Raiders 23-19

[ExtraScoop]

Just to point out, the Washington Minnesota game is also on Monday.

GO RAIDERS!!!!

[timkona]

Seems to be quite a few members of Raider Nation around here.

That pleases me more than Aunty cappin on Manoa. jk manoa.

[oceanpacific]

My "picks" are:

PITTSBURGH
BALTIMORE
CAROLINA
DENVER
NEW ENGLAND
PHILADELPHIA
CLEVELAND
SEATTLE
TENNESSEE
KANSAS CITY
CHICAGO
JACKSONVILLE (can't stand the 'Boys)
SAN FRANCISCO (going with my heart, not my head)
INDIANAPOLIS (big brother wins this duel)
WASHINGTON

SAN DIEGO 27-17

I'm no "expert," just a "guess-pert."

[Palama Kid]

Hah? Indy no mo kickah?
Indy got rid of that likkered-up kicker (Mike Vanderjagt, "the NFL's most accurate kicker"), and went with Vinatieri, who's now got a bum plant (leff) ankle. Das why I say they no mo kickah.

You are right, though, about the injury list. It might be good to wait, but I figgered my picks are pretty solid . . . well, mostly solid.

[nachodaddy]

Seems to be quite a few members of Raider Nation around here.

That pleases me more than Aunty cappin on Manoa. jk manoa.

Raider fan all my life. They used to practice in my hometown when they moved to LA. Got a lot of "sneaking into bars and partying with Raiders" stories from 18-20 years old.

[manoasurfer123]

Since the Seahawks are no longer in the AFC West...

My Hatred for the Raiders has diminished....

My love for the Seahawks will never though and I will always be a "BroncoBuster" at heart!

[nachodaddy]

Miami vs Pittsburgh Pittsburgh
Atlanta vs Carolina Carolina
Baltimore vs Tampa Bay Baltimore
Buffalo vs New England New England
Cincinnati vs Kansas City Kansas City
Denver vs St Louis Denver
New Orleans vs Cleveland Cleveland
NY Jets vs Tennessee Jets
Philadelphia vs Houston Philly
Seattle vs Detroit Seattle
Chicago vs Green Bay Chicago
Dallas vs Jacksonville Dallas
San Francisco vs Arizona Arizona
Indianapolis vs NY Giants Indianapolis

Minnesota vs Washington Minnesota
San Diego 17 vs Oakland 24

[manoasurfer123]

Pittsburg one the first game of this thread!

Anyone else want to jump on before the season gets into full swing sunday?

[ExtraScoop]

[QUOTE=nachodaddy]They used to practice in my hometown when they moved to LA.QUOTE]
That would be El Segundo? My wife and I used to drive down from NoCal to watch them play at the Coliseum. Fun trips.

[ExtraScoop]

Since the Seahawks are no longer in the AFC West...

My Hatred for the Raiders has diminished....

My love for the Seahawks will never though and I will always be a "BroncoBuster" at heart!

I used to fly up to watch the Raiders play in the Kingdome. What a dump that was. Then drive up to BC for a couple of days. Those were fun trips too.

[ExtraScoop]

I'll go with these winners.

Rams
Titans
Pats
Bucs
Bengals
Seahawks
Panthers
Eagles
Browns
Jaguars
Bears
Cards
Colts
Redskins
Raiders 31-17

[manoasurfer123]

Scrivener - Is it ok to change one of my predictions?
Minnesota Vikings at Washington Redskins (Washington)
I'd llike to change my Vikings vs. Redskins to read that the Vikings will win! (an 0-4 preseason is scaring me even though they gonna have portis)

It's not midnight yet...??? still possible?

Manoa

Seahawks win it on the last play of the game with a field goal.... I'll take it! :p

Wasn't by 14...but I'll take it

I'm 5-0 so far... :)

[manoasurfer123]

I ended up 9 - 5 on the day... what happened to my afternoon picks?

[manoasurfer123]

I ended up 9 - 5 on the day... what happened to my afternoon picks?
Correction... I ended up 8 - 6 not as good as I would hope for... but this still only opening week and I get tonights games to hopefully go to 10 - 6 or 8-8 :(

[manoasurfer123]

Too take the pressure off from scrivener... I suggest we all compile our own scores... Keep in mind the honesty policy... and if anyone doesn't believe what someone else has posted...well duh...its there to verify for anyone else to see...

I'm giving myself a 10 - 6 record this week considering I called Minnesota over Washington before midnite on Saturday...

Everyone else compile your scores...and post here... I'll keep a running total....

Unless Scriv's got some sort of computer generated thing that he can punch in numbers and have results instantly....(which I wouldn't doubt!)

Manoa

Sitting at 10 Wins 6 Losses during week 1

[scrivener]

i geff 'em.

too tired to do it now. tomorrow.

[scrivener]

Oh, you are going to LOVE this!

Here are the results for week 1 in the HawaiiThreads NFL Pick'em!
11 pzarquon
11 scrivener
10 manoasurfer123
10 nachodaddy
10 extrascoop
9 timkona
9 oceanpacific
4 palama kid
2 lavagal
1 blueyecicle

By virtue of his picking the Chargers to beat the Raiders in the tie-breaker, pzarquon is the winner of week 1! pzarquon and scrivener are tied for the cumulative lead.

pz, by the way, was the only one to correctly predict that Atlanta would beat Carolina, and he was the only one to correctly predict that New Orleans would beat Cleveland. Palama Kid's strategy of picking all the home teams, while usually not a bad idea, just didn't work out this time.

It's a good lesson: You don't have to know jack about football to play this game!

If we were playing by percentages, Lavagal would be in first, getting 2 correct out of 2 guesses!

Thanks for playing, everyone. New matchups in the next post.

[scrivener]

HawaiiThreads NFL Pick'em! Here are the matchups for Week 2!

Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings
Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins
NYGiants at Philadelphia Eagles
NewOrleans Saints at GreenBay Packers
Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts
Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears
Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals
TampaBay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons
Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens
Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks
St.Louis Rams at SanFrancisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at SanDiego Chargers
NewEngland Patriots at NYJets
KansasCity Chiefs at Denver Broncos
Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score
Pittsburgh Steelers at Jacksonville Jaguars


It would be VERY helpful to me if you'd post your picks in the order presented here. It's not necessary, but it makes correcting a lot faster if everyone's picks are in the same order. Thanks!

Remember: We're playing for total wins and for most times winning a week, which means that if you decide to jump in now, you've got at least as much a chance of winning this thing as the 9 of us who didn't come in first this week! So what are you waiting for? Post your picks by 6:00 a.m. Sunday!

[Surfingfarmboy]

Time to get into this game and join the fun. Here are my picks for week 2 of the '06 NFL season.

Miinnesota Vikings
Miami Dolphins
Philadelphia Eagles
NewOrleans Saints
Indianapolis Colts
Chicago Bears
Cleveland Browns
Atlanta Falcons
Baltimore Ravens
Seattle Seahawks
SanFrancisco 49ers
SanDiego Chargers
NewEngland Patriots
Denver Broncos
Dallas Cowboys

Pittsburgh 26-20

[Palama Kid]

Palama Kid's strategy of picking all the home teams, while usually not a bad idea, just didn't work out this time.
Truss me, I realized that I picked only home teams - last night - during my review. I'll have you know that I used all of my prognostication skills and knowledge / history of the NFL to make my picks. They were cold calculated selections.

Now, on to this week's picks.


Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings (CP has too many key offense / defense injuries)
Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins (Fish finally overcoming Ricky's defection)
NYGiants at Philadelphia Eagles (Eli's not coming)
NewOrleans Saints at GreenBay Packers (Bush not real; Favre is)
Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts (RBs have to produce more to make up for Edgerrins' loss, but Peyton's too good)
Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears (Dis could be anuddah shutout)
Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals (Johnson & Johnson: nuff sed)
TampaBay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons (Vick rules - great to watch, but I'm thankful they left the West years ago)
Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens (Raiders' down year - fewer wins than 49ers)
Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks (AZ win last week was not impressive)
St.Louis Rams at SanFrancisco 49ers (Swept dem ewes last year - woo hoo !!)
Tennessee Titans at SanDiego Chargers (Bess of the AFC Wess)
NewEngland Patriots at NYJets (5-1/2 pt underdog, but gotta pick me some key upsets to get back into this game)
KansasCity Chiefs at Denver Broncos (One word for last week's loss to Rams: anomaly)
Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys (TO's circus catches vs Jags impressed me)

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score
Pittsburgh Steelers at Jacksonville Jaguars 23 - 21 (Pitt has half-Korean Hines, but doesn't have a "TO"; can't see Batch repeating his efficiency)


Yes, I took a hit last week. In fairness, we prognosticators can't be 100%, but four (4)!!??? Only consolation: dat was firss week.

So, I buried myself in my library to worry over the stats and injury lists & in combination with my vast NFL background, came up with my picks.

[pzarquon]

Huh. How about that? Well, it turns out the monkey/parrot/toddler sometimes wins those stock picking competitions, too, so my score was not entirely impossible. But improbable!

Beginner's luck requires that I get every pick wrong this week, of course.

Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings
Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins
NYGiants at Philadelphia Eagles
NewOrleans Saints at GreenBay Packers
Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts
Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears
Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals
TampaBay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons
Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens
Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks
St.Louis Rams at SanFrancisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at SanDiego Chargers
NewEngland Patriots at NYJets
KansasCity Chiefs at Denver Broncos
Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys

Pittsburgh Steelers at Jacksonville Jaguars - 23-19

[ExtraScoop]

Okay, try again.
Carolina
Miami
NY Giants
New Orleans
Indy
Chicago
Cincinnati
Atlanta
Baltimore
Seattle
St. Louis
San Diego
NY Jets
Denver
Dallas
Jacksonville 24-17

Thanks Scrivener

[manoasurfer123]

Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings
Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins
NYGiants at Philadelphia Eagles
NewOrleans Saints at GreenBay Packers
Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts
Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears
Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals
TampaBay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons
Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens :D
Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks :p
St.Louis Rams at SanFrancisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at SanDiego Chargers
NewEngland Patriots at NYJets
KansasCity Chiefs at Denver Broncos
Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score
Pittsburgh Steelers at Jacksonville Jaguars
34-24 (jacksonville)

Just noticed that I picked all Home teams except for 2 games! :eek:

[manoasurfer123]

Huh. How about that? Well, it turns out the monkey/parrot/toddler sometimes wins those stock picking competitions, too, so my score was not entirely impossible. But improbable!
DANG PZ!!!

Well it was kind of a different week w/ plenty home teams losing...etc... and the first week of the season is always hard to tell what's going to happen.

Plus there were plenty games that could have gone one way or the other!

Out of my 5 losses their was a combined point total of 37 points...

(so basically an average of 7.4 points per game per loss... Scrivener...
Your NFL Gadget thing you use figure those kind of things out also?)

[manoasurfer123]

Oh, you are going to LOVE this!

Here are the results for week 1 in the HawaiiThreads NFL Pick'em!
11 pzarquon
11 scrivener
10 manoasurfer123
10 nachodaddy
10 extrascoop
9 timkona
9 oceanpacific
4 palama kid
2 lavagal
1 blueyecicle

By virtue of his picking the Chargers to beat the Raiders in the tie-breaker, pzarquon is the winner of week 1! pzarquon and scrivener are tied for the cumulative lead.

pz, by the way, was the only one to correctly predict that Atlanta would beat Carolina, and he was the only one to correctly predict that New Orleans would beat Cleveland. Palama Kid's strategy of picking all the home teams, while usually not a bad idea, just didn't work out this time.

It's a good lesson: You don't have to know jack about football to play this game!

If we were playing by percentages, Lavagal would be in first, getting 2 correct out of 2 guesses!

Thanks for playing, everyone. New matchups in the next post.
Scrivener - I'd like to contest this.... I Had 11 Wins...

Did you pick up my post from Post #24?

Scrivener - Is it ok to change one of my predictions?
Quote:
Originally Posted by manoasurfer123
Minnesota Vikings at Washington Redskins (Washington)

I'd llike to change my Vikings vs. Redskins to read that the Vikings will win! (an 0-4 preseason is scaring me even though they gonna have portis)

It's not midnight yet...??? still possible?

Manoa

[scrivener]

Uh...whoops.

I forgot about the freebie on Thursday night. I am the only one who picked Miami over the Steelers (Rothlisberger out, new QB in Miami, plus some good young talent with something to prove), so when I added up the scores, I just counted that pick wrong, which it was, but I also said it was a freebie.

So that puts me in an awkward position -- I would go back and correct scores for anyone else playing the game so that the freebie were accurately reflected, but in this case the only person it applies to is me, the person running the game.

Um.

I considered putting it up for discussion, but I'm pretty sure I know what the outcome of any debate would be. Fair's fair, and I did say Thursday's game was a freebie, and if I'm going to be impartial, that means exercising impartiality even when I'm the sole beneficiary. This is quite embarrassing, but I'm going to declare me the winner of Week 1, with 11 correct picks plus the freebie making 12.

Anyone wanna complain? Please feel free. This judge's decision is by no means final!

[timkona]

We'll just call it the vig.

[scrivener]

This is what I have for manoasurfer123. If you see a mistake, please correct me.

! pittsburgh
x tampabay
x carolina
x denver
! newengland
! philadelphia
x cleveland
! seattle
x tennessee
! cincinnati
! chicago
! jacksonville
! arizona
x ny giants
! minnesota
! sandiego

I count ten correct.

[scrivener]

I changed my mind for reasons I'll get into later. We're going with the originally-posted results.

[manoasurfer123]

Your correct Scrivener...

I had the Ravens over the Bucs on another Pickem thread... I dunno how I messed that one up here! :o

Good thing your keeping score and not me :rolleyes:

[oceanpacific]

Week 2 (winners in CAPS):

Carolina at MINNESOTA
Buffalo at MIAMI
New York Giants at PHILADELPHIA
NEW ORLEANS vs. Green Bay
Houston at INDIANAPOLIS
Detroit at CHICAGO
Cleveland at CINCINATTI
Tampa Bay at ATLANTA (Lelie will double his production)
Oakland at BALTIMORE (the Raiders are B..A..D!!)
Arizona at SEATTLE (back to reality, chapter 1)
St. Louis at SAN FRANCISCO (one of the 'Niners few wins)
Tennessee at SAN DIEGO
NEW ENGLAND at New York Jets (back to reality, chapter 2)
Kansas City at DENVER (Rocky Mountain high)
Washington at DALLAS (it's an 0-2 start for the 'Skins)

Pittsburgh at JACKSONVILLE - Jaguars 28, Steelers 24

[timkona]

Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings
Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins
NYGiants at Philadelphia Eagles
NewOrleans Saints at GreenBay Packers
Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts
Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears
Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals
TampaBay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons
Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens
Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks
St.Louis Rams at SanFrancisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at SanDiego Chargers
NewEngland Patriots at NYJets
KansasCity Chiefs at Denver Broncos
Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score
Pittsburgh Steelers at Jacksonville Jaguars
30-17

[manoasurfer123]

Seems to be quite a few members of Raider Nation around here.

That pleases me more than Aunty cappin on Manoa. jk manoa.
What happened to you Raider pickers? :p

[timkona]

I'm trying to win this pool, AND be a Raider Fan at the same time. Tightrope.

[nachodaddy]

pz, by the way, was the only one to correctly predict that Atlanta would beat Carolina, and he was the only one to correctly predict that New Orleans would beat Cleveland. Palama Kid's strategy of picking all the home teams, while usually not a bad idea, just didn't work out this time.



Somehow, Ryan knew ahead of time that Steve Smith was not going to play for Carolina or that Jurevicius would leave in the first quarter with a busted up rib. He has got an "in" somewhere.

If it is cool with everyone else, I am going to make my picks at the last possible minute, ergo the previously mentioned injury report and more importantly, to copy off of Ryan if he has any more insider information. :)

Scriv, I am cool with the vig as well. Your pool.

[scrivener]

No way. No vig here, I swear.

Also, I know Palama Kid wasn't just picking home teams -- he was the only one who gave meaningful, thoughtful reasons for his picks! If it sounded like I didn't give you your props, I apologize!

The spirit of the freebie was to encourage participation up to as late as Sunday morning; ultimately, what it all came down to was that pz and I both picked 11 winners, and he got the tie-breaker. The best outcome is that he should be the winner of week 1; thus, my decision. I think we can all live with it! Especially since I'm going to come out on top at the end of the season anyway.

[Surfingfarmboy]

Scriv, I am cool with the vig as well. Your pool.

Vig! Short for vigorish. That's the first time I've seen anybody use that word in anything, other than Scrabble games! BTW, it's an excellent word to play when the board is really tight..especially around the time players are down to their last tiles to play.

Yo Scriv, in regards to your prognostication of your ultimate victory in the NFL Picks contest: It is no accident that I elected not to participate in the first round of this game. In the spirit of good sportsmanship, I chose to give every other contestant playing this game at least a fighting chance with a head start. Like most contests I enter into within Hawaii Threads, I win; that certainly gets boring after time for everybody. So to make this contest of NFL picks fair, I deferred my entry into the game until this week. It shouldn't affect the final outcome of the game though....come week 17 of the '06 NFL season, the other players in this game will learn, with no uncertainty, that Surfingfarmboy is a de facto synonym for champion. ;)

[ExtraScoop]

What happened to you Raider pickers? :p

After seeing them in person go scoreless against SD I can't imagine them scoring on Baltimore.

I've been in severe depression since Monday night. The team has issues.

[nachodaddy]

Barring any DUIs within the next 24 hours and/or Ryan's crystal ball predicting a 1st qtr leg snap on Monday. Here are my picks.......


Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings Minnesota
Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins Miami
NYGiants at Philadelphia Eagles NY
NewOrleans Saints at GreenBay Packers NO
Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts Indy
Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears Chicago
Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals Cincy
TampaBay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons Atlanta
Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens Baltimore
Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks Seattle
St.Louis Rams at SanFrancisco 49ers St. Louis ( If I can't pick the Raiders to win then I gotta pick SF to lose)
Tennessee Titans at SanDiego Chargers SD
NewEngland Patriots at NYJets New England
KansasCity Chiefs at Denver Broncos Denver
Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys Dallas


Pittsburgh Steelers 13 at Jacksonville Jaguars 17 (see this one as a defensive game)

[scrivener]

Here are my picks, with a few comments:

Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings
Carolina's loss to the Falcons was a fluke; the Panthers are still the team to beat in the NFC South. The Vikings are coming on strong, but this is a transition year for them. I love Brad Johnson, but he is not the answer.

Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins
I still think Miami should have beaten Pittsburgh last week. The Bills looked good, but I'm impressed with what the Dolphins did.

NYGiants at Philadelphia Eagles
Game of the week and a total coin-toss. I'll go with the team with a real running back.

NewOrleans Saints at GreenBay Packers
Two teams that will probably stink this year, but when Favre gets knocked on his butt, he usually bounces up and smacks someone in the face.

Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts
We're not playing with "confidence points" in this game, but if we were, this would be my high-point game.

Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears
I really, really want Kevin Jones to be the real deal, but against the Chicago D, nobody's really the real deal.

Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals
Chad Johnson: 150 yards and 2 TDs.

TampaBay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons
As much as I dislike this Atlanta team, I have to take them against Tampa.

Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens
There's no way the Raiders are as bad as they showed last week, but I don't think Baltimore's as good as they looked last week. I'm going with the Raiders in an upset.

Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks
Two teams that have me scratching my head after week 1. When in doubt, take the team with the best running back, and this game features the second-best running back in the NFL.

St.Louis Rams at SanFrancisco 49ers
This is going to be the game that makes Frank Gore a household name.

Tennessee Titans at SanDiego Chargers
Ride the hot hand until it burns you.

NewEngland Patriots at NYJets
This is another one that's tough to pick; Pennington looks to be back to his old self. Anything can happen when these two teams meet up -- you can toss last week out the window and just flip a coin. Mine landed on the Patriots.

KansasCity Chiefs at Denver Broncos
Here's what I don't get: Everyone's saying the Chiefs are easy pickings without a quarterback, but the Chargers don't really have a quarterback and look what they did last week! LJ is no LT, but he's close enough for this game.

Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys
Clinton Portis: Out in early second quarter. Mike Anderson: 2 TDs.


Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score
Pittsburgh Steelers 23 at Jacksonville Jaguars 26
Oh, I soooooooo want to pick the Jags here, especially with Fred Taylor still healthy (not that that will last very long). Leftwich vs. Batch tells me to take the Jags; Leftwich vs. Rothlisberger tells me to take the Steelers. Count on the Jags to score at least a few points in some unconventional way (safety, blocked kick, interception return). Wait; I think I just convinced myself.


I have no faith in this week's picks, which is why it's taken me so long to post them. What a weird Week 2 this is.

[manoasurfer123]

I just reviewed my picks... and I'm keeping them.

[manoasurfer123]

My picks looking good so far...

7 - 2 for the morning picks....

Freaking Hail Mary by NY Giants on a 3rd and 11 in OT sunk my Eagles :mad:

Still 7-2 is respectable...

Now if the Seahawks can win :) I'll be stoked no matter how I do for the rest of the day.

[scrivener]

nachodaddy has the early lead this week with 8 after the early games. There's a whole traffic jam of people with 7 and 6.

[nachodaddy]

I want to see that punter for Arizona just try to tackle someone..... that grill of his is something else....It's geometrical correctness is perfect for inviting an elbow or shoulder pad to slip into his dental work.

[manoasurfer123]

Nacho...

Were only catching the KC Denver game right now in Hawaii...

[nachodaddy]

Sorry Manoa....

You are watching a good game too....... :)

[manoasurfer123]

12-2 for the day.... not bad so far :cool:

[manoasurfer123]

Barring any DUIs within the next 24 hours and/or Ryan's crystal ball predicting a 1st qtr leg snap on Monday. Here are my picks.......


Carolina Panthers at Minnesota Vikings Minnesota
Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins Miami
NYGiants at Philadelphia Eagles NY
NewOrleans Saints at GreenBay Packers NO
Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts Indy
Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears Chicago
Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals Cincy
TampaBay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons Atlanta
Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens Baltimore
Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks Seattle
St.Louis Rams at SanFrancisco 49ers St. Louis ( If I can't pick the Raiders to win then I gotta pick SF to lose)
Tennessee Titans at SanDiego Chargers SD
NewEngland Patriots at NYJets New England
KansasCity Chiefs at Denver Broncos Denver
Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys Dallas


Pittsburgh Steelers 13 at Jacksonville Jaguars 17 (see this one as a defensive game)
See what happens when you vote AGAINST a team for something other than logic?
San Fran?

[anapuni808]

Niners & Raiders fans don't bet with logic - they bet with love (and sometimes desperation), they bet on faith - but never logic :D and I say this as a very, very longtime Niners fan. I could never bring myself to bet against my team - even if it meant losing $$$. and the last few seasons, it's been very hard to be a Niners fan & still hold my head up.

and Manoa - How did you get to be so good at picking winners? 12-2 is great! Next time I make bets, I'll be consulting you first! (unless it's the Niners).

[manoasurfer123]

It was kind of an easy week... I just got lucky!

And you guys will be suprised if and when I bet against my seahawks... but there may be that game :o

[1stwahine]

It was kind of an easy week... I just got lucky!

And you guys will be suprised if and when I bet against my seahawks... but there may be that game :o

Manoa, I'm taking your picking$ seriously too. I think we better have a talk. I going back into....neva mind people. Top Secret! ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Auntie Lynn

[manoasurfer123]

After the game that just ended... I'm actually 13-2 :)

However, Nachodaddy is also 13-2... but I beat him by 1 last week :p

The tie breaker will be on the point spread on tomorow nights Game....which I think he will take just because mine is kind of a bit high... but will see!

And Gee... (Scrivener technically won it because of a freebie)...but in my eyes...PZarquon won the whole dang thing last weekend so maybe you can take him and his parrot to vegas with you!

And better yet... If you want the guarantee... take Lavagal... she's 100% :eek:
if it's based on games played.

[timkona]

12-3 Not good enough.,.....Gonna have to step it up.

[manoasurfer123]

Scriv - can we PM you are Picks?

I no like anyone blame me for losing somewhere else! :rolleyes:

(I'll still post them publicly online Sunday Morning so no one thinks were in cohoots or anything)

[oceanpacific]

Niners & Raiders fans don't bet with logic - they bet with love (and sometimes desperation), they bet on faith - but never logic :D and I say this as a very, very longtime Niners fan. I could never bring myself to bet against my team - even if it meant losing $$$. and the last few seasons, it's been very hard to be a Niners fan & still hold my head up.

and Manoa - How did you get to be so good at picking winners? 12-2 is great! Next time I make bets, I'll be consulting you first! (unless it's the Niners).

I'm also a longtime 49er fan of over 50 years since the days of Leo "the Lion" Nomellini, who was a pro wrestler during the off-season. I'm at 13-2 this week after picking both my 'Niners and the hated Cowboys. The SF pick was sentimental (I'm still not convinced about qb Alex Smith) and Dallas was at home vs. the 'Skins. And, Manoa and I both picked Jacksonville (GO CHAD, GO!) for MNF.

[anapuni808]

Well - you've got me beat there. I've only been a fan for about 30 years. as for those hated Dallas guys - I used to have a t-shirt with a diagram of "The Play" on the front. and I also had a t-shirt that LOOKED like an official Dallas shirt til you got up close and it said in bold letters: F*** Dallas. My boss in SF bought it for me. I was lucky enough to live there for 4 of the 5 super bowl victories - anyone who has lived in a super bowl winning team's hometown can tell you - those were some parties in the streets!!!

Now, if the team "owner" John York will just loosen up the purse strings a bit more and learn to look at it as a sports franchise instead of just a business, we might have a chance (next season?) for another trophy. Maybe Little Eddie D. will have to take him out behind the barn & give him some Auntie Lynn Whack Whacks to get him in line but I have my hopes that if won't be long til we rise again.

GO NINERS :D

[oceanpacific]

Well - you've got me beat there. I've only been a fan for about 30 years. as for those hated Dallas guys - I used to have a t-shirt with a diagram of "The Play" on the front. and I also had a t-shirt that LOOKED like an official Dallas shirt til you got up close and it said in bold letters: F*** Dallas. My boss in SF bought it for me. I was lucky enough to live there for 4 of the 5 super bowl victories - anyone who has lived in a super bowl winning team's hometown can tell you - those were some parties in the streets!!!

Now, if the team "owner" John York will just loosen up the purse strings a bit more and learn to look at it as a sports franchise instead of just a business, we might have a chance (next season?) for another trophy. Maybe Little Eddie D. will have to take him out behind the barn & give him some Auntie Lynn Whack Whacks to get him in line but I have my hopes that if won't be long til we rise again.

GO NINERS :D


Now, as I recall, Eddie, Jr. relinquished control of the team to his sister Denise York when he was subject to an investigation of financial dealings with Louisiana governor Edwin Edwards to establish riverboat casinos. Somewhere along the line, brother-in-law John York seized control as team "owner" and the 'Niners took a tumble. Will Eddie, Jr. ever regain control of the team?

Ah, those "glory years." SF is tied with Dallas and Pittsburgh with FIVE Super Bowl titles, but the 'Niners have never lost a Super Bowl game (the 'Boys have dropped three title games, the Steelers one).

I have a video tape of the 1981 NFC title game ("the Catch"). The picture's not great - my TV was on "rabbit ears" as there was no Oceanic Cable service in my area then. But, there's no denying the celebration in "Bahgdad by the Bay." Electric!

[scrivener]

oh please. no, you may not pm me your picks. just post them like everybody else. my life is complicated enough!

[manoasurfer123]

Ok scriv... understand... but are we still allowed to change our responses up until your deadline? Or does the first thing we put down stick?

[scrivener]

whatever you have as of 6:00 sunday.

I may make that 5:00 when the mainland falls back an hour.

[anapuni808]

Now, as I recall, Eddie, Jr. relinquished control of the team to his sister Denise York when he was subject to an investigation of financial dealings with Louisiana governor Edwin Edwards to establish riverboat casinos. Somewhere along the line, brother-in-law John York seized control as team "owner" and the 'Niners took a tumble. Will Eddie, Jr. ever regain control of the team?

Ah, those "glory years." SF is tied with Dallas and Pittsburgh with FIVE Super Bowl titles, but the 'Niners have never lost a Super Bowl game (the 'Boys have dropped three title games, the Steelers one).

I have a video tape of the 1981 NFC title game ("the Catch"). The picture's not great - my TV was on "rabbit ears" as there was no Oceanic Cable service in my area then. But, there's no denying the celebration in "Bahgdad by the Bay." Electric!

I remember being in a bar in the Marina District of SF on Super Bowl sunday #16 - after the game ended, I asked a friend "I wonder what would happen if I punched "God Bless America" on the jukebox"? well, I did it - there were people standing on the bar, leading the singing. You would think we had just solved all the world's problems with that one game! It was quite an experience. and yes, Niners are tied with other teams at 5 wins but as you say - we never lost a super bowl game. and that Lombardi Trophy is really large, silver, shiny & pretty :D

When I lived there, my neighbors & I got so depressed without football one year that we had a "playoff party" one weekend in June or July - replayed a tape of that NFC championship playoff game, leading up to SB #16. You would think we had never seen the game before - we cheered & yelled so much! The next weekend, we had a tailgate party & watched a tape of Super Bowl 16 - ahh, what fun that was!

I think Eddie D. has been banned for life - he also had to sell off the NHL team he owned - Pittsburgh Penguins. But, he is still "behind the scenes" with his sister & her uptight husband. I'm truly hoping that John York will loosen up this season & start being a sportsman instead of an accountant. I think we have great potential - maybe not this season as re-building is still ongoing but by next season? Who knows what can happen? But win or lose, I'm a diehard Niners fan for the rest of my life.

[oceanpacific]

Well, I picked the 'Niners both weeks over Arizona and St. Louis. Both regarded by most pundits as "give-away bets," but guess what? 1-1, with the win over the Rams being oh, so sweet! I'm in this just for the fun of it, no more, no less. I don't engage in "P-sheets" or 6-5, anyway. Most weeks I'll be shooting for 15-1 tops, but who knows what happens on the field? Maybe, just maybe, Alex Smith will turn out to be the answer at QB, but SF has so many needs.

GO, 'NINERS!

[anapuni808]

Well, I'm not putting my hopes on Smith - you are right, Niners have so many needs! I have a good friend who actually played in a Super Bowl - he is my guru when it comes to what makes a good team. Of course, the fact he hates the 49'ers is a mark against him but I love him anyway :D

[oceanpacific]

Well, I'm not putting my hopes on Smith - you are right, Niners have so many needs! I have a good friend who actually played in a Super Bowl - he is my guru when it comes to what makes a good team. Of course, the fact he hates the 49'ers is a mark against him but I love him anyway :D


Hates the 'Niners? Oh, how misguided he is! It's the Cowboys that get the derision in my household - I have taught my progeny well! :D

[nachodaddy]

Hey Manoa;

You interested in a little side bet?

Oh, BTW we tied last week, so right here, right now, B4 Monday Night football, we are still tied.

[manoasurfer123]

Hey Manoa;

You interested in a little side bet?

Oh, BTW we tied last week, so right here, right now, B4 Monday Night football, we are still tied.
I'm not too happy about my scores I posted for tonights game...

So I'm pretty sure your gonna take tonights game...

[nachodaddy]

Manoa;

Forget tonight's game for now. It does not matter in our side bet.

The Bet- terms and conditions

The Winner is the person who has the highest cumulative games picked for the regular season. Since we tied last week, and we are tied now, and we both picked J-Ville, this week will be a push. We will use the official Scriv cumulative for the count. So right now, the counter is at zero.

All timing of picks must coincide with Scriv's rules.

We play that out till the end of regular season.

The person with the highest cumulative has to post the current week's picks by midnight Saturday.

The Prize. Since this is a BB, loser has to post avatar and sig of choice from the winner. Avatar and sig need to stay up for 30 days. Avatar and sig must be cool with Ryan.

What say you????? If you agree to these terms, simply quote me and say "agree"

[manoasurfer123]

What say you????? If you agree to these terms, simply quote me and say "agree"
Why do I have this sinking feeling that you already have an AVATAR chosen for me!

And since I'm not going to post my picks until the last second to keep "Copycats" from referring to my guesses... that rule won't really work.

(and I just can't see my signature ever reading something like...
Manoa loves the Raiders more than the Seahawks!)

(So NOPE... your conditions are to severe!)

[nachodaddy]

Manoa;

"Why do I have this sinking feeling that you already have an AVATAR chosen for me!"

Why, yes, yes I do......it is called "motivation".

Let me help you with this.

"The person with the highest cumulative has to post the current week's picks by midnight Saturday."

That prevents the winner from copying the loser game for game............ For example if I get one up on you, all I have to do is copy you, game for game, until the end of the season where I still be one up from you. This rule prevents this..........

We can add a rule stating that once picks have been posted, it cannot be changed if you prefer............

So.... here I explained it, showing how it can be fair to both parties.......there must be something else holding you back......don't let fear be your motivator.....rise above, bro. Don't be scared.

:)

[manoasurfer123]

Can I say... er um... I was lucky the last few weeks...and it only goes down hill from here as the playoffs get closer and closer... I tend to sway from logic and go with Heart...

I'm not out to win anything... just play a long on HT...

I'd rather have a weekly bet amongst you though....

Loser has to use the signature of the others choice for the losing week....

[Lei K]

Ok, I'll probably play. Don't know how I missed this thread before. But as much as I love football I really suck at these sort of games. :rolleyes:

[nachodaddy]

OK Manoa;

I am a reasonable man. We go by Scriv's rules and Scriv's official count only. That means we take into account tie breakers (tonight's game for example is "on").

Sig goes up by midnight Tuesday, goes down by midnight Tuesday the next week.

No avatars, just sigs.

Please quote and type "agree"

[manoasurfer123]

Just because I have a signature doesn't mean I have to post during the week if I lose do I?

Nope... not agreed just yet! (and definately not with the score I picked for Tonights game!)

[pzarquon]

Man, Nacho, I'd have given up by now. Hell, I wouldn't have even asked. Trying to get Manoa to make a firm commitment (why change your picks? just go with your gut, for cryin' out loud) is like trying to nail Jell-O to a tree!

Maybe this can be something you two can hash-out via PM? This thread takes some work to follow as is. I'd rather just see picks (one time!) and Scriv's tally each week.

[nachodaddy]

Man, Nacho, I'd have given up by now. Hell, I wouldn't have even asked. Trying to get Manoa to make a firm commitment (why change your picks? just go with your gut, for cryin' out loud) is like trying to nail Jell-O to a tree!

Maybe this can be something you two can hash-out via PM? This thread takes some work to follow as is. I'd rather just see picks (one time!) and Scriv's tally each week.

NP Ryan, just got to use a lot of nails. :)

Manoa, taking this offline, check your PMs

[Leo Lakio]

NP Ryan, just got to use a lot of nails.What if he meant "still in powdered form"?

[manoasurfer123]

Man, Nacho, I'd have given up by now. Hell, I wouldn't have even asked. Trying to get Manoa to make a firm commitment (why change your picks? just go with your gut, for cryin' out loud) is like trying to nail Jell-O to a tree!

Maybe this can be something you two can hash-out via PM? This thread takes some work to follow as is. I'd rather just see picks (one time!) and Scriv's tally each week.
Hey I make firm commitments all the time...

I just tend to change em often;)

[nachodaddy]

What if he meant "still in powdered form"?It would take a lot of nails, a whole lotta nails.

Plus warm water and a mold and sufficient chill time.......... :)

[Lei K]

I'd rather just see picks (one time!) and Scriv's tally each week.

My thoughts exactly on this. I confuse easily. :D So who is in da lead?

[Leo Lakio]

sufficient chill time.......... :)We could all use some of that.

[manoasurfer123]

The tie breaker will be on the point spread on tomorow nights Game....which I think he will take just because mine is kind of a bit high... but will see!

I don't know why I posted such High Scores for this Mondays game!!!!

Freaking 3-0 in the fourth? :o

Damn

[manoasurfer123]

(see this one as a defensive game)
nice call nacho!

I hate defensive battles....they seem kind of boring!

[nachodaddy]

nice call nacho!

I hate defensive battles....they seem kind of boring!

Missed the first half, saw some crazy hits tho' in the second half.

[admin]

Please take general commentary on NFL teams and games as they unfold to the General NFL Thread (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=10246) in Player's Place. Let's limit this thread specifically to the HawaiiThreads NFL Pick'em game, as in, picks and results.

[scrivener]

Week 2 Results!

As we all know from nachodaddy's and manoasurfer123's trash-talk, they tied for the number of correct predictions with an AMAZING 14 of 16! What you might not know is that they are joined by OceanPacific, also with 14. All three of our leaders picked Jacksonville to beat Pittsburgh, but NOBODY thought it would be such a low-scoring affair. The tie-break decides that nachodaddy, whose predicted score was closest in that game, is our Week 2 winner!

In the cumulative game, nachodaddy and manoa vault into the lead with 24. pzarquon and oceanpacific are next with 23, followed by scrivener, timkona, and extrascoop with 21.

If you'd like to see the exact picks and results for either this week or last week, check out this web site (http://nfl2006.mitchellkdwyer.net) I set up just for the pick'em! I'll put a cumulative thing up there when I get it looking a little more pleasing to the eye.

[manoasurfer123]

Hey scriv... nice little side site for the pickem game...
Thanks!

[nachodaddy]

Scriv, nice site. Much Mahalos for doing this.

How did you get a picture of me tho'?

[scrivener]

Here are the matchups for Week 3 in the HT NFL Pick'em! Again, it will be most appreciated if you'd submit your picks in the order presented here. Picks may be posted up to 6:00 Sunday morning!

Thank goodness; the Raiders are off this week, stalling my need to pick against them. Also drawing byes: Dallas, Kansas City, San Diego.

Washington Redskins at Houston Texans
NY Jets at Buffalo Bills
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions
Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins
Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers
Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos at New England Patriots

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick winner and predict score!
Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints

[manoasurfer123]

Now this is what I like to see.... a real tough week to call in my eyes....

I've made my picks in my mind.... ;)

[manoasurfer123]

Washington Redskins at Houston Texans
NY Jets at Buffalo Bills
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions
Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins
Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers
Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos at New England Patriots

Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints

Falcons 24 -21 with Lelie scoring a TD :)

Take in mind... I have been told that I can change up until 6:00 am Sunday

[pzarquon]

Washington Redskins at Houston Texans
NY Jets at Buffalo Bills
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions
Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins
Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers
Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos at New England Patriots

Tiebreaker: New Orleans Saints 31-28

Take in mind... I have been told that I can equivocate and hem and haw and call attention to myself as many times as I like up until 6:00 am Sunday... but won't.

[Palama Kid]

Hooo whee . . . this week's is more difficult. My prognostication skills must be deteriorating. But after some time consuming deliberations, here are my picks:


Washington Redskins at Houston Texans (Redskin defense will smack down Texans' offense)
NY Jets at Buffalo Bills (Chad continues big comeback)
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions (Last week showed Favre is still Favre)
Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts (Defense shored up, then rushing wins this game)
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings (Absolutely zero chance for upset)
Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins (Miami by 11? NO WAY. With no protection, Culpepper disappoints again)
Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers (Bengals really hurting, but playoff game nightmare not forgotten)
Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Peppers will be sorely missed; however, coach's special-teams trick plays are out - so CP wins)
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns (Browns' lack of rushing attack will hurt them)
NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks (Surprise !!! Eli's for real)
St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals (SL offense will show drastic improvement)
Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers (This Niner fan sez Eagles won't let up this week; SF improved pass defense not enough against McNabb)
Denver Broncos at New England Patriots (Upset key: Elam)

Monday Night Tie-Breaker:
Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints 33-31 (Brees will get his stats, but can't save them this week)

[manoasurfer123]

Palama... I love your picks sometimes!

Good to see someone playing the game with the intention of winning!

Just kidding bro... I'm glad your having fun with it too...but dang all visiting teams....?
I wouldn't doubt it if you won this week.... I have to re-evalutae my pics just on your prognosis alone!

[Surfingfarmboy]

I wonder if there ever was a regular season weekend, in the NFL, when every visiting team won? The odds of that occuring now, with 14-16 games played every weekend, seem pretty remote. There's always a first time though. Another thought: I wonder what a Vegas book would pay (on the dollar) on a provisional where one bets all visiting teams win on a weekend, straight up?

[manoasurfer123]

Washington Redskins at Houston Texans
NY Jets at Buffalo Bills
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions Sleeper game
Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings Chicagos is running up scores this year
Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins
Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers
Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos at New England Patriots

Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints

Saints 17 - 14 with America just happy to see the Superdome back in use after Katrina hit!

I think these are final :o

50% of my picks were visiting teams!!! Doh... could be an ugly week for me!

[oceanpacific]

I wonder if there ever was a regular season weekend, in the NFL, when every visiting team won? The odds of that occuring now, with 14-16 games played every weekend, seem pretty remote. There's always a first time though. Another thought: I wonder what a Vegas book would pay (on the dollar) on a provisional where one bets all visiting teams win on a weekend, straight up?

If Vegas ever put out a line for "all-visitors winning," there would be takers for such a bet.

Something like 66,000:1, assuming all teams are equal. But, since they wouldn't be, the Texans visiting the Seahawks should supposedly increase the payout.

People will gamble on just about anything. Some of my friends make bets on what kind of play will result in the first first-down of the game (run, pass, or penalty).

[nachodaddy]

Washington Redskins at Houston Texans
NY Jets at Buffalo Bills
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions Sleeper game
Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings Chicagos is running up scores this year
Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins
Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers
Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos at New England Patriots

Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints

Saints 17 - 14 with America just happy to see the Superdome back in use after Katrina hit!

I think these are final :o

50% of my picks were visiting teams!!! Doh... could be an ugly week for me!

Manoa;

You might want to take that blindfold off next time you are throwing darts, you might actually hit something. :)

That is change #3 if I am correct.

You sure about that Cincy game? Three key injuries to Cincy and Pittsburgh being pissed off about being blanked on Monday night. Nah, Cowher would let that one slide fer sure........good call.

[pzarquon]

If Manoa is so concerned about being able to change his picks, I'd like to politely recommend he make all the changes he wants to a list he keeps on his computer, and that he just submit his picks once just before the deadline. Less chance of someone "stealing" his oh-so-insightful picks, and less annoyance for the rest of us.

[Marco]

Washington Redskins at Houston Texans
NY Jets at Buffalo Bills
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions
Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins
Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers
Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos at New England Patriots

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick winner and predict score!
Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints

Falcons 24 -14 (but Reggie Bush busts out a 40+ yard TD run)

I'm such a homer. I always pick my Niners to win, no matter what. No wonder I always lose!

[manoasurfer123]

If Manoa is so concerned about being able to change his picks, I'd like to politely recommend he make all the changes he wants to a list he keeps on his computer, and that he just submit his picks once just before the deadline. Less chance of someone "stealing" his oh-so-insightful picks, and less annoyance for the rest of us.
Well... just maybe Manoa is throwing them out there to confuse some people;)

Gee...is this truly his final pick?...etc... ;)

It's players place PZ and part of it is Game Psychology!

[Surfingfarmboy]

My picks to win for week #3.

Washington Redskins
Buffalo Bills
Detroit Lions
Indianapolis Colts
Minnesota Vikings
Miami Dolphins
Pittsburgh Steelers
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Baltimore Ravens
NY Giants
Arizona Cardinals
San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos
Atlanta Falcons 28-15

[timkona]

Washington Redskins at Houston Texans – Skins need wins to compete in the toughest division in NFL.
NY Jets at Buffalo Bills – Bills at home. Winter is early.
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions – Favre ain’t dead yet.
Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts – Manning faces first REAL defense. Jags comin off big MNF win.
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings – Viks beat Panthers last week but Chicago is top 5 team right now.
Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins – Culpepper due for a breakout game.
Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers – I’m goin with my gut on this one. Bengals got BIG O talent.
Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers – All pirates in the NFL suck this year.
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns – Ravens are tuned and nearly injury free.
NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks – Manning the 2nd coming into his own lately.
St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals – Who cares?
Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers – Eagles are still stinging from last week. Bet they got fire-belly.
Denver Broncos at New England Patriots – Snow in the forecast?
MNF
Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints – U2 opens, and then Bush gets 200+ multi-yards.
31-17

[TuNnL]

Well... just maybe Manoa is throwing them out there to confuse some people;)

Gee...is this truly his final pick?...etc... ;)

It's players place PZ and part of it is Game Psychology!Now that is some funny shait!

[Surfingfarmboy]

Denver Broncos at New England Patriots – Snow in the forecast?

Patriot fans only wish...they have some really good memories of battles won in snowstorms. The "Snow Bowl", (the Brady "tuck" game), against the Raiders in the '01 season playoffs comes to mind most frequently around here. Great game...though I remember I was pulling for the Raiders to win that one. I thought the Raiders played magnificently in the conditions of that game...here was a warm weather California team, playing in a freezing blizzard, and if it wasn't for that questionable non-turnover call, I felt they would have won.

I believe the weather for the game this Sunday should be fairly warm. The last I heard, Sunday (during the day) will be in the low 80s, somewhat humid, with a front passing through around late afternoon bringing showers (which should end by game time) and game-time temp. in the upper 60s to low 70s.

Denver has had the Pats number of late; the Broncos have beaten the Pats 4 out of their last 5 meetings. (Remember when Ashley Lelie finished off the Pats in '02 with a first down catch in the 4th to seal that game in Foxboro?) Needless to say, the Boston sports talk radio stations have made this very clear the last few days. The Denver-NE game ought to be a great chess match between two masters of the game...Shanahan vs. Belichick.

[scrivener]

Washington Redskins at Houston Texans
This is a tough one to call, but it comes down to Houston's once-fearsome ground game not being so fearsome. Can you tell I'm big on running backs?

NY Jets at Buffalo Bills
Buffalo has been surprising, and the AFC East is one of a few divisions where intra-division matchups can always go either way; however, Chad Pennington looks really good.

Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions

Jacksonville Jaguars at Indianapolis Colts

Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings

Tennessee Titans at Miami Dolphins
My third week in a row riding the Dolphins. I'm such an idiot.

Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers
My against-all-reason pick.

Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns

NY Giants at Seattle Seahawks
I'm such a big Tiki Barber fan that I can't seem to pick against him, even though his triplet brother is the other team's running back.

St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals
Oh, I'd love to see Kurt Warner kick his old team's butt.

Philadelphia Eagles at San Francisco 49ers
I said last week's SF game would make Frank Gore a household name; it didn't. But only because the media doesn't talk about the 49ers very much. Keep an eye on this future Pro-Bowl rb.

Denver Broncos at New England Patriots
Not a difficult pick at all.

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick winner and predict score!
Atlanta Falcons 27 at New Orleans Saints 17
I'm predicting a shootout with lots of yardage but just an average score.

Keep in mind that I may change my picks before 6:00 tomorrow. I'm thinking of taking the Patriots over the Eagles instead of over the Broncos.

[nachodaddy]

This is a really tough week, really tough. Had to find inspiration under the lights last night..........

Washington Redskins- two words: Chris Cooley
Buffalo Bills- Buff at home, that dismal, unforsaken home
Detroit Lions- I love Favre but he should have retired last year
Indianapolis Colts- Colts score first, J'ville won't be able to keep up
Minnesota Vikings- home at the dome will help the D, journeyman Johnson will get the offense going
Miami Dolphins- this is the week the O line clicks and Dante throws with confidence
Pittsburgh Steelers- injuries to Cincy and Cowher's wrath
Carolina Panthers- the return of Steve Smith
Cleveland Browns- my upset pick- another game settled by a field goal
Seattle Seahawks- this game will also be settled by a field goal
Arizona Cardinals- SL beats Denver, loses to SF, hard to tell what they are going to do next......
Philadelphia Eagles- NFC East versus the rest of the league- pick NFC East first and vassilate from there........
Denver Broncos- Lynch puts someone on a stretcher in this game. TE for NE can't neutralize him

Monday Night Tie-Breaker
Atlanta Falcons 30-24 finally some points on Monday night!!!! Atlanta with the lead option and NO with the Katrina hype and Bush.

[manoasurfer123]

I said it was a tough week!

Scriv - any way you can show a running total on the frontpage of the Pickem site you created?

[oceanpacific]

Week #3:

WASHINGTON
BUFFALO
DETROIT
INDIANAPOLIS
CHICAGO
MIAMI
PITTSBURGH
TAMPA BAY
BALTIMORE
SEATTLE
ST. LOUIS
PHILADELPHIA
NEW ENGLAND

ATLANTA 28, New Orleans 17

[scrivener]

I'll put a cumulative thing up there when I get it looking a little more pleasing to the eye.
Not yet. Just go with what I posted for now.

[manoasurfer123]

Keeping my pics scriv -

I'm probably going to take a beating...but if you don't take risks... you never will get the wins...

[nachodaddy]

the voting is closed........

Gentlemen, I wish you well.............

[manoasurfer123]

I don't know about everyone else...

But I just woke up and looked at the scores in the games....

I'm currently down in every single game I picked! :eek:

I'm gonna take a pounding this week....

Nacho... hope you have your signature planned for me :(

[scrivener]

For those of you craving a mid-point update, after the early games, I'm in the lead with 8 of 8. TimKona and Manoa are next with 7. Details here (http://nfl2006.mitchellkdwyer.net), if you, like me, enjoy looking at all the picks and all the results.

[manoasurfer123]

so nacho...

I'm thinking....heheheheheheh....

Will pm you with my choice of signatures :p

Doesn't look like you got a chance this week...;)

[nachodaddy]

Good job Scriv......

For you Manoa, I still got a chance: Cleveland, Denver and Atlanta....

[manoasurfer123]

Down goes cleveland :p

[nachodaddy]

OK Manoa;

You win. I am mathematically eliminated.

I can put the sig up early but that means it comes down early AKA in 7 days.

Your call when it goes up..........

:)

[manoasurfer123]

:p I'm waiting for it :D

[nachodaddy]

Relish in your glory....it will be short lived. We are on for next week, correct?

[manoasurfer123]

Relish in your glory....it will be short lived. We are on for next week, correct?
agreed! next weeks a bit whacky too though
You sure about that Cincy game? Three key injuries to Cincy and Pittsburgh being pissed off about being blanked on Monday night. Nah, Cowher would let that one slide fer sure........good call.
Um...Yeah... I was sure about that cincy game... Want to borrow my blindfold? :p

Hey Nacho...

Palama beat you and he picked all the visiting teams :p

[scrivener]

About the Monday Night Tie-Breaker:

So far, both weeks' winners have been determined by the tie-break, so I thought I'd explain it.

If participants have tied scores after all games have been played including the Monday night game, the winner will be determined in this order.

The participant who picks the winning Monday night team wins if none of the other tied participants have also picked the winning team.

If more than one of the tied participants have picked Monday's winner, the participant who comes closest to predicting the margin of victory wins the tie-break.

If there is a tie in predicting the margin of victory, the participant who comes closest to predicting the total points scored wins the tie-break.

I am not sure, but I believe that in order for the game to remain tied at this point, the tied participants must have predicted the same winner and the same final score. Taking inspiration from the Honolulu Zoom game, I will take jan-ken-po (rock-paper-scissors) submissions from the tied participants until someone emerges victorious. If I happen to be one of them, a neutral third party will be agreed upon to referee the jan-ken-po.

[manoasurfer123]

If Palama's Denver pick holds onto this game...

His picks were pretty dam good for just choosing all away teams!

Like I said after you picked em.... I liked em.... I just didn't think they were good.... you sure showed us!
For those of you craving a mid-point update, after the early games, I'm in the lead with 8 of 8. TimKona and Manoa are next with 7. Details here (http://nfl2006.mitchellkdwyer.net/), if you, like me, enjoy looking at all the picks and all the results.
We gonna get a second half of the day update?

Your board is much easier to follow then in my own head.

[scrivener]

Like Saturday's U.S. Senate race, this one's over before the final printout. With one game to play, I'm ahead of Palama Kid by 1 (11 to 10), but we both picked Atlanta to beat New Orleans, making tomorrow's game a formality. I'll wait until Monday night to make it official, but sometime this evening I'll post the updated spreadsheet.

[manoasurfer123]

Ahh...congrats Scriv!

Nice picks!

[nachodaddy]

Good job Scriv!!!!

Like the added features on your site. Much Mahalos.

For me, back to the drawing board, gonna put some habaneros into next week's offering............

[manoasurfer123]

scrivener....the SEAHAWKS WON... your new board is not showing that on my scorecard :mad:

If I win tomorrow nights game...wouldn't that make me the winner?

[scrivener]

Whaddayaknow. Thanks for checking. As you can see, I mistyped "Seattle" (good thing you're not doing the typing, hm? :) ) so the spreadsheet didn't see that as a win. I'll fix it now. And yes, if the Saints beat the Falcons tomorrow night, you win week 3 by virtue of the tie-break!

Thanks for reading carefully.

edit: the spreadsheet has been reposted with what I think are accurate scores!

[manoasurfer123]

I never won last week....nachodaddy did!

But as you can see... I eat nacho's on sunday :p

[manoasurfer123]

Hey scriv - Do we get to submit pictures for your External Page???

23 -3 halfway through the 3rd :p

I love the sweet smell of the superdome!

[scrivener]

Argh. That's twice now I've prematurely announced myself the winner, only to see it slip away. That'll show me!

[manoasurfer123]

Argh. That's twice now I've prematurely announced myself the winner, only to see it slip away. That'll show me!
I think I hear a "fat lady singing" ;) (it's a sports reference people)

[scrivener]

Do we get to submit pictures for your External Page???
You can submit anything you want, but I won't necessarily publish it. The photos I'm using are files that I paid the photographers to use. I won't republish someone else's work on that site without permission from the photographers or holders of their copyrights. So if you're planning to send me your own photos, please feel free and I'll consider it.

[manoasurfer123]

I was kidding scriv... I'd much rather see what you find for me;)

[timkona]

Who is the girl in the middle? Hot, Hot, Hot!!

[scrivener]

Week 3 results!

Well. As has been made plain, I declared myself the winner of Week 3 but ended up in second. Sheesh!

Congratulations to manoasurfer123 for 11 correct picks and winning the tie-break! This means manoa is the leader in the cumulative game and ties pzarquon and nachodaddy for the lead in the most-weeks-won game.

Here are the Week 3 totals:
11 manoa <-- Winner by tie-break
11 scrivener
10 timkona
10 palama kid
8 oceanpacific
8 marco
7 pzarquon
7 nachodaddy
5 surfingfarmboy
1 lavagal
0 blueyecicle
0 extrascoop

In the cumulative game:
35 manoa
32 scrivener
31 timkona
31 oceanpacific
31 nachodaddy
30 pzarquon
26 palama kid
21 extrascoop
17 surfingfarmboy
8 marco
3 lavagal
1 blueyecicle

As always, you can get a detailed look here (http://nfl2006.mitchellkdwyer.net)!
I finally put up an ugly but workable look at the cumulative data.

[scrivener]

Here are the Week 4 match-ups. Please post your picks before 6:00 in the morning Sunday.

Hey. It might be a bit late to get in on the cumulative game, but the most-weeks-won game is wide-open, so if you've been thinking about playing but have been hesitant, just jump in. That means you, LeiKaina, ExtraScoop, and anyone else!

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Pantehrs
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score!
Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles


byes: Denver, NYGiants, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay

[Palama Kid]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets (Can't keep picking on Indy to lose - juss can't)
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers (OK, I'm on the NO bandwagon.)
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills (Minn QB "The Statue" gets just enough protection from Bills' rush)
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons (Maybe Leinart new QB; maybe AR in upset)
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens (Outstanding Ds; SD O better)
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans (Skinny Culpepper still chugging)
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs (KC by 7? Without Green?)
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans (TO to play = damned Cowboys to win)
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams (SL WRs have field day; not enough to overcome Kitna)
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins (Jags need to score TDs as kicking lacking)
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders (Only redeeming factor: no blow out)
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals (Criminal element: deleterious impact)
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears (Yeah, yeah . . . Alexander's out, but "The View" QB hot)

Monday Night Tie-Breaker:
Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles 30 - 21 (10 point underdog !! This is my BIG upset)

[pzarquon]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears

Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles 27-29

[manoasurfer123]

So I'm looking over this weeks picks...

And I see some shocker games!

Gonna have to bust out my "heads/tails" quarter this week on some games. :o

[Marco]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Pantehrs: still not convinced the Saints are for real, though I love Reggie.
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons: probably Warner's last shot at retaining his job. I hope they bring Leinart in soon, regardless.
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs: if Gore would stop fumbling, Niners might actually win a few games.
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins: Portis is a stud.
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders: will Oakland even win a single game this year?
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears: Da Bears look formidable. They're my NFC Super Bowl pick.

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score!
Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles: 38 - 24

[manoasurfer123]

what is up with all these Visitor Team picks?
am I missing something?

[Marco]

what is up with all these Visitor Team picks?
am I missing something?
Yeah, I noticed that too. Just the way it shook out when I was picking my games.

I think someone on the previous page chose every single road team to win. Wonder if he did that on purpose or not.

[manoasurfer123]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears My Beloved Seahawks w/out Alexander :o

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score!
Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles 28-21

First Draft of the week... I think there will be some adjustments as Now I see I've picked all home teams except for the Monday night game ;) and the Dallas game

[manoasurfer123]

I put a message out to a few HT members in hopes they would get involved in this some how....

and if you think about it...this game is still wide open as NO one has any distinct advantage in the weekly polls... there have been seperate winners each week...so anybody joining now still has the potential to be right up there in the amount of weeks won.

I don't care too much who wins or loses... I'm very suprised at how well I've done....

Thanks scriv for taking the time to do this.

Hope some others will still join as the season is still early!

[Mike_Lowery]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears

Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles 20-10

[manoasurfer123]

Mike Lowery... i must ask this of everyone this week...what's up with the visiting teams this week...?

[Surfingfarmboy]

In regards to all of the visiting teams being chosen as potential winners: It looks as if, maybe, the NFL has achieved its goal of parity..the "On Any Given Sunday" thing. Relative parity anyway. Obviously, the Houston Texans are not quite on the same playing level as the Seattle Seahawks, but....on any given Sunday..you know how it goes...Houston could (in theory) surprise Seattle.

The NFL is simply the most competitive sporting league, with the most talented athletes, in the USA. The evident demise of the "home field advantage", with the relative parity among all the franchises, clearly demonstrates this.

[Mike_Lowery]

Mike Lowery... i must ask this of everyone this week...what's up with the visiting teams this week...?
Look at the home teams...they're suffering major injuries (KC), underachieving (Carolina and Oakland), aging (Green Bay), or too conservative (Washington--wait, conservative football from the nation's capitol? :D)

[manoasurfer123]

After todays episode with Terrell Owens... My Dallas pick is now up in the air after all!

Here it is scrivener....

Barring any suicide attempts by 6:00 sunday morning....

Had to change a few things up cause my picking parrot just wasn't agreeing with me :p

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons the lelie factor
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders Raiders get their first win
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears There is no I in team… the Seahawks are a good team and can win w/out Alexander**** make sure to save change on HT

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score!
Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles 28-21

Hey freaking Nacho... go silent ON HT here while I have won his signature....watch how much trash he talks all over HT the week he wins...if he does...

[nachodaddy]

Hey freaking Nacho... go silent ON HT here while I have won his signature....watch how much trash he talks all over HT the week he wins...if he does...

Just got home. Three freakin' days on the road. Good to be back. Picks soon.

[nachodaddy]

Here ya go.............

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears

Monday Night
Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles 24-21

Keeping it on the downlow this week.

[manoasurfer123]

LMAO Nacho!

Your picks are identical to mine and almost the same monday point spread!

Guess your planning on keeping your signature?

[nachodaddy]

LMAO Nacho!

Your picks are identical to mine and almost the same monday point spread!

Guess your planning on keeping your signature?

That is FUNNY. Did not even look at yours.........

No such thing as a tie..........the devil is in the details. We follow Scriv's rules for a tiebreaker. In order.

And, OBTW, your sig goes dark Sunday afternoon, regardless of the outcome of this week. New week, new bet.

[manoasurfer123]

And, OBTW, your sig goes dark Sunday afternoon, regardless of the outcome of this week. New week, new bet.
Nacho... the coincidences that we posted the same is irritating me...especially when i've been choosing pics first!

I will be changing at least one of my picks... just cause I can't handle us being that closely aligned!

Ugh! Good thing you never wanted your initial bet which was the season long one... you would have a lot of catch up to do!
And, OBTW, your sig goes dark Sunday afternoon, regardless of the outcome of this week. New week, new bet.
That's sunday afternoon Hawaii time about 3:47;)

[pzarquon]

This message is hidden because manoasurfer123 is on your ignore list.There are few happier words in the English language than these... nevertheless, even spared the actual content, I can see this thread continues to be Manoa'd.

If you're bickering about your 'side bet,' why not keep it on the side? You know, via Private Message? This is the HawaiiThreads NFL Pick'em game, not the Watch Manoa Change His Picks and Bicker game. Sheesh.

[manoasurfer123]

Geez pz... this just a "game"... nacho knows I just rubbing him...

sorry if I rubbing you...

Every playground needs a bully to get beat down once in awhile;)

[Surfingfarmboy]

About the replications one choosing winners identical to the picks of others: While I hope I do not pick a line-up of winners that matches another participant's team for team, it could potentially (and probably will) happen. I make my picks independent from any information that has posted in this thread..in fact I try to avoid looking at picks from other players (other than the MNF game) to avoid the replication thing, as well as to make picks based on my own intuition and not to be swayed by what I read from others.

In a game where winners and losers are determined by straight-up winning and no spread with contend with, there is bound to be replication among the picks, especially toward the latter half of the season when the overall trend of what teams are winners and what teams are losers has been established. Like previously mentioned though, there is no exact replication of any picks in this game due the MNF factor.

I'm not sure anybody would want to replicate my picks at this point in the game. I've kinda struggled so far. I feel pretty good about my picks for this week though, which I will be posting soon before the deadline.

[timkona]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Pantehrs
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score!
Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles
27-16

[manoasurfer123]

good call on that chicago game TK...

I was going to switch it to... but it's my beloved Seahawks.... and now that if I did... I would have the exact same posts as you!:o
So I guess I keep my Seahawks and pray for the best

[Surfingfarmboy]

Surfingfarmboy's picks for Week 4 of HawaiiThreads NFL Pick'em:

Indianapolis Colts (Peyton Manning goes for 2 wins in Big Apple this year)

Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings
Atlanta Falcons
Baltimore Ravens

Miami Dolphins (It's funny how the football schedule worked out this week for the cities of Miami and Houston, as the Houston Cougars are visiting the 'Canes in Miami in D1A football this weekend as well.)

Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys
St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars

Oakland Raiders (This might be the Raiders best chance at a victory in '06)

Cincinnati Bengals (Johnson, Henry, and Houshmanzadeh too much for NE secondary to handle)

Chicago Bears (Grossman may have finally arrived)

Philadelphia Eagles 31-20

[oceanpacific]

After last week's disaster (8-6), here are my WINNERS for week 4:

INDIANAPOLIS vs. New York Jets
New Orleans vs. CAROLINA
MINNESOTA vs. Buffalo
Arizona vs. ATLANTA
San Diego vs. BALTIMORE
MIAMI vs. Houston
San Francisco vs. KANSAS CITY
DALLAS vs. Tennessee
Detroit vs. ST.LOUIS
JACKSONVILLE vs. Washington
Cleveland vs. OAKLAND
New England vs. CINCINNATI
SEATTLE vs.Chicago

PHILADELPHIA 35, Green Bay 20

[manoasurfer123]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers (changed to have some sort of variable here on HT... well see if it works:confused: )
Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons the lelie factor
San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys at Tennessee Titans
Detroit Lions at St. Louis Rams
Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns at Oakland Raiders Raiders get their first win
New England Patriots at Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks at Chicago Bears I hate to pick against my Hawks... but I got to seperate myself from the rest of the pack! Allow Seattle to adjust without Alexander and they p/u up their only loss of the season. (It will be close though and I'll be stoked if they win besides here)

Monday Night Tie-Breaker: Pick Winner and Predict Score!
Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles 28-21

[scrivener]

Indianapolis Colts at NY Jets
Jets on a roll, but Colts on a better roll.

New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers
I'm not a believer.

Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills
Bills could be this year's surprise team.

Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons
Falcons embarrassed last week; look for huge rebound this week.

San Diego Chargers at Baltimore Ravens
Tough game to call; I usually take the better running back, but in this case I'm going with the better D against inexperienced QB.

Miami Dolphins at Houston Texans
I don't think the Texans are as bad as they've been, but I really like the Culpepper-led 'Phins!

San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Oh, I'm so tempted to take the niners here. I'm going with LJ at home.