Chinatown police seek camera volunteers

[Miulang]

Eh, Aunty Lynn:
The HPD is looking for volunteers to monitor (http://starbulletin.com/2005/03/13/news/index1.html) the Chinatown District for illegal activities. How does that sound to you? They have some security cameras installed in parts of the district, but no one to watch them for suspicious activity.

I also read last week when I was in the 'aina that the police at that station were concerned working in that building because of asbestos and mold upstairs. Hmmm...Would that put the volunteers at risk too?

Miulang

[1stwahine]

:) Aloha Miulang! They would never let me volunteer to watch the cameras at the Chinatown Sub-Station, my mouth wouldn't stop from catching everything illegal. Chinatown is my personal War Zone. I've asked many times to be on a task force, help initiate a plan that would work but nobody takes me seriously. The only time is when they really want somebody or something is amiss, they call me. Other than that, I'm what they call not credible. However, that doesn't stop me from continuing in the fight against Drugs and Illegal activities. I will check it out and go personally. I already know what my Hanai sons and daughters will do...LAUGH and I will laugh along with them too. Nah, they know they can count on me anytime, on my time now.

Things are different. I take care of MAMA, Antonio and now Mark. I still make my daily checks of Chinatown for updates in my Blogg. I've come to realize that even if they get rid of Larry,Joe or Johnny, somebody else will eventually take their place. Chinatown and places like it will never ever be free from Illegal and Drug Activities. However, we, as a community can fight and continue fighting it and maybe just maybe it will be eradicated. To give up is to give up on life itself.

Yeah, I heard about the Asbestos thing. I pray all the Officers are ok. What I can't understand is they renovated the whole building from the inside out. Like a skeleton. This was only several years ago. How did asbestos get in the ceiling when it's a new ceiling? Weird. Ohhh, maybe was one of Harris's construction friends.heheheheh ;)

[Albert]

"The HPD is looking for volunteers to monitor the Chinatown District for illegal activities. How does that sound to you?"

I wouldn't help bust my friends even if I don't approve of what they're doing.

[1stwahine]

"The HPD is looking for volunteers to monitor the Chinatown District for illegal activities. How does that sound to you?"

I wouldn't help bust my friends even if I don't approve of what they're doing.

You might as well buy a wreath for them. It's not about "busting them"...it's about "SAVING" their lives! If you don't approve, start fixing the problem. I want to volunteer but I'm better used in other ways even if it can cost me my life. Yeah, Auntie Lynn of Chinatown has many disguises. One of them is saving lives and helping to eradicate the problem! Not sitting on my okole and saying, "no like busting my friends!" :mad:

[1stwahine]

Miulang, belated mahalos for the link. I clicked it on and instead of going to the "Police looking for Volunteers...," I began reading what Mayor Mufi decided to stop from happening. My eyes focused on Chinatown. $159,126 scrapped for Anti Crime Securiy Cameras Phase V, Street Lighting $ 54,380 and a Designer Built Field at Aala Park for $ 410,400. I can understand the Designer Field, the homeless sleeping there would get awfully mad.

Anti Crime Security Camera's and better Street Lighting scrapped? Any special interests here to not see whats happening? Hmmm...I wonder, just wonder if I really do ask to volunteer to monitor the cameras, they would let me. Police Chief Correa, Maj. Lima, Lt. Green, I am asking Publicly to volunteer for the better of my community to monitor the cameras. Give me two weeks...I would make a difference than any of you thought posssible. Sorry Danny, I just about had it! :mad:

PROMISES, PROMISES don't work no moa!

[1stwahine]

I took my daily drive through Chinatown. Had dinner and thought about volunteering, I sent an email to inquire. Problem is the email didn't go through...the email address I get is hpd@honolulu.pd.org.. It always worked before. Hmmm...maybe they blocked my emails! heheheheheh

I'm going to call tomarrow to find out the requirements, times, etc. I'm using an alias cause if I use my real name, they'll think I'm joking. Bumby Chinatown and the surrounding areas going get to much clean.

Good night everybody! Get well Pzarquon! :D

Before I submitted this post, I checked the email address again. Oooops, I'm not suppose to have a period after org. It got through. Now, I wait.

[Albert]

"It's not about "busting them"...it's about "SAVING" their lives!"

Getting someone thrown in HCCC or Halawa is NOT going to save their life.

[1stwahine]

"It's not about "busting them"...it's about "SAVING" their lives!"

Getting someone thrown in HCCC or Halawa is NOT going to save their life.

Albert, some addicts learn from different ways of "Saving dem!" Incarceration is a wake up call for some. Other's come to want to quit when they had enough or hit rock bottom. In the mean time families and friends are suffering. I know personally how it hurts to see a loved one trapped in the life of ICE, & Coke...(http://www.hawaiistories.com/lynn)

If need be, I would have a friend or relative thrown in HCCC or Halawa if I felt it would "SAVE" dem. Wait, I have done that countless of times and would not blink an eye to do it again.

The best part of it all, is when they come out, become productive citizens again and look for you to thank you even for just a brief moment without any fanfare, awards or recognition. That, Albert is what it boils down to, TOUGH LOVE! Some make it, some don't...we who care and love them must not give up.

[Albert]

"The best part of it all, is when they come out, become productive citizens again"

Rubbish. Putting people in prison for drug addiction is a totally losing solution.

I don't know what the solution is, but that isn't it.

[it should be OCCC ... how could I have forgotten my friends who talk about their time in "o-triple-C" while lighting their glass pipes?]

[1stwahine]

"The best part of it all, is when they come out, become productive citizens again"

Rubbish. Putting people in prison for drug addiction is a totally losing solution.

I don't know what the solution is, but that isn't it.

[it should be OCCC ... how could I have forgotten my friends who talk about their time in "o-triple-C" while lighting their glass pipes?]

The solution is doing something about it! Next time you see your friends with glass pipes...break um! and if you get da olos to save them, call HPD. I hope when one of your friends dies you won't say, "I should have done something!" I've been to many funerals of people I knew on the street who just couldn't get it...they left behind people who loved them who also didn't know what the solution was. I want to get you so Mad, that you will find a solution or be part of one to eradicate this ugliness thats eating away and destroying our family and friends. No one is safe, not even you.

[Albert]

"I hope when one of your friends dies you won't say, "I should have done something!""

One did. I wish I could've helped him. But I am absolutely certain that sending him to prison would NOT have done it.

[1stwahine]

"I hope when one of your friends dies you won't say, "I should have done something!""

One did. I wish I could've helped him. But I am absolutely certain that sending him to prison would NOT have done it.

I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately you still don't get it. It's not only sending someone to prison, everybody is different. The bottom line is, it is illegal and killing them. We can only push them in the right direction, be there should they falter and help them again. It has to come from their heart to quit. Dear Albert, go eat an early lunch at L&L today...they have a contest too. Take out your frustrations there. :rolleyes:

[LikaNui]

Unfortunately you still don't get it.

I'd like to respectfully suggest that, given his particular situation and lengthy first-hand experience, Albert should be allowed to express his opinion without retribution, as should all of us here.
I'd hope that everyone here can agree to disagree at times without taking it personally. The best discussions on the internet are those that address the message and not the messenger.
:)

[kimo55]

Albert should be allowed to express his opinion without retribution, as should all of us here.



what you said!


the "Unfortunately you still don't get it." is something that never works and serves to do nothing more than cause divisiveness, with its unfortunate implied air of superiority.

[1stwahine]

I'd like to respectfully suggest that, given his particular situation and lengthy first-hand experience, Albert should be allowed to express his opinion without retribution, as should all of us here.
I'd hope that everyone here can agree to disagree at times without taking it personally. The best discussions on the internet are those that address the message and not the messenger.
:)

If you had read from the beginning of the thread you would have seen why I care so much on this topic. I respect other people's opinions after all this is America. How about respecting mine...MYOB! :mad:

Infact when you're online, I get off! :cool:

[LikaNui]

If you had read from the beginning of the thread you would have seen why I care so much on this topic. I respect other people's opinions after all this is America. How about respecting mine...MYOB! :mad:

I have indeed read from the beginning of the thread, and I absolutely do respect your opinion too. Please take a moment and re-read my earlier comment -- it includes a suggestion for respecting everyone here, yourself included.
Perhaps I should have tried even harder to make that clear.
:o

[LikaNui]

what you said! the "Unfortunately you still don't get it." is something that never works and serves to do nothing more than cause divisiveness, with its unfortunate implied air of superiority.

Yep. I don't recall the URL to the website that explains Netiquette, but perhaps someone can re-post that link here? Mahalos plenny.
Hopefully it includes the suggestion that if someone is upset, they should wait several hours before posting a reply, giving themselves time to calm down and not post something they'd regret later.
:)

[1stwahine]

:eek: hmmm...you're still here. Oh, well. I did calm down and took my daily drive. Solution. I ain't never gonna give up. As for respecting other people's opinions, I apologize if I come off rude and whatevers. I'm sorry. As for regretting what I may say, I don't think so. I regret that there is no permanent solution to this cause. Whatever interest it gets by people getting mad, giving excuses or others putting their two cents piece in, that's a whole lot better than having no interest at all.

Auntie Lynn of Chinatown ;)

Please Moderator, close this thread. Mahalo.

[prettyday]

Unfortunately, well, this is just my thought...drugs are a symptom not the disease in solo...

[kimo55]

Unfortunately, well, this is just my thought...drugs are a symptom not the disease in solo...


right. and it raises many questions:
What are druggies escaping from? Why do they want to punish themselves to such a degree? Why do they hate themselves? What is the root of the problem? IF... druggies are chased away, they continue their activities elsewhere. And if they land in the hoosegow, will that force them into cold turkey? Are there NO drugs in jail?
Will they learn to be more of a hardened criminal in jail?
Does jail help?
IF...ice is eradicated, will it be immediately replaced or substituted by another illicit substance?

[1stwahine]

it includes a suggestion for respecting everyone here, yourself included.
Perhaps I should have tried even harder to make that clear.
:o


Now, that's funny! :) Guess you don't really know Auntie Lynn of Chinatown ( quote from someone on the board)...I'm pupule yet, I get things done. Go figure than one out.

What I say today, I may forget tomarrow...or in a second, a minute, or an hour...whatever the case maybe, I stand by dem words that come out of me. have I made myself clear?hehehehehehehehehe

have a great day, LikaNui! No hard feelings. :D I don't want to be ban from the Forum or Hawai'i Stories since you're a Senior Member? :rolleyes:

[prettyday]

right. and it raises many questions:
What are druggies escaping from? Why do they want to punish themselves to such a degree? Why do they hate themselves? What is the root of the problem? IF... druggies are chased away, they continue their activities elsewhere. And if they land in the hoosegow, will that force them into cold turkey? Are there NO drugs in jail?
Will they learn to be more of a hardened criminal in jail?
Does jail help?
IF...ice is eradicated, will it be immediately replaced or substituted by another illicit substance?

let's see:
"druggies" bless your heart kimo55, no child dreams of being called that when older, but I agree that in this current society, people might as well know the label that will stick...
People want to punish themselves for...a deep and tortured sea of reasons...would it surprise you to know that in the beginning, the drug appears the most gentle bandage yet applied...in varying amounts of time, it grows the poisonous spikes inward that whip the person to the next dose...not right, not at all, but there it is.
The root of the problem is that society in general keeps hoping that mental and emotional illness will just go away...drug companies make their (literal) killing on this hope, and "druggies" learn the 'art of the slink out of sight, fly under the radar.' What a fate for God's creatures, how many legs they may have, two, four...(of course I hate animal testing, especially when it comes to reactions to drug dependence and addiction...rabbits, cats dogs, monkeys, don't live within a family in society for years before that foul lab cage that leads to desperate needs for escape; no! they are artifically caused abject despair What a sin!) As for the human animal and the attempts to make them "just forget! Ha! This should not be. If druggies are chased away, they continue their activities elsewhere, because their pain travels with them...again, this is not a reason or a justification. We must treat the pain...as well as the drug use; and we lie when we tell an alcoholic or a drug user that if they stop using and fix what is bugging them according to what they "tell us," all will resolve. For some of us, it never resolves. We were born this way. I have known I had an emotional problem since 4 years of age...I did not start any substances until my early twenties...I had already tried to leave this life three times seriously and my body was a roadmap of self-inflicted scars...and I am a survivor, a wounded but tough tigress...can you imagine the more fragile ones...I have spent my life trying to save those ones only to realize I was avoiding my own mess. Naturally, I no longer believe in altruism, I have proven that wrong in my case...I am not terminally unique, it follows that others do as I do.
Cold Turkey? Did that...that's another story...when I tell it, You will believe in people blindly taking what the doctor offers, and regretting that they live to regret it.
Yes, they learn to be worse in jail. They lose a large measure of hope for starters; truly the most obscene punishment for any heart of any creature.
Does jail help? I think it could have maybe saved Dana Plato...a little...just to dry out...but no...that would have meant we as a public would have learned there is more to our current news than the CULT OF CELEBRITY, and we might have started asking hard news questions. This of course, can not be allowed to happen.
There are no words for how I feel about crystal meth...I lost one of the loves of my life to it; when he was done manipulating and working my heart and my desire, he left me a shell...I had to rebuild myself...already with my past (again, no worse than many others, I was "a bruised one.")
I did not need the pain that surrounds this substance; nor does anyone bewildered by the sudden change in a loved one...Now, it's too late, yes, another substance will take its place. We would be wiser to come up with a "clean" produced like effect substance and administer it.
It is too late. We lost. If we realize that now, we could turn this "war, WOD," into a battle after all, and win the overall WAR.

[pzarquon]

I don't know what the heck I just missed here, but I'd just like to say that one can still be outspoken and proud to speak one's mind without dismissing or belittling the views of others. And just because you have the right and ability to say it, doesn't neccessarily mean it has to be said. What makes a community is not just the mix of similarities and differences between its members, but how well they adapt and evolve to share a common space.

Lynn, you make no secret of your close connection to and affection to Chinatown. Just be sure to realize that everyone else here also has a story, and a reason - whether deep or frivolous - to share their thoughts.

I would humbly offer that Albert does get it, or at least understands the realities far better than I. And while drugs make people do stupid things, I think it's the stupid things they should be punished for... the wholesale incarceration of people who, often times, are merely hurting and slowly killing themselves is not the best use of that time and money.

Access to drugs may be a problem, but so are the reasons why people seek them out.

[1stwahine]

You, I listen to. I apologize from my heart. Honest. I'll discuss in my "living room" from now on. :D

Preetyday, I loved reading what you wrote...from the heart and soul.
I wish you well and I do respect your views as with everyone elses.

[prettyday]

Thank you SO much, 1st Wahine! That was kind, and generous; I wento to read the story under your signature, and heaved a deep breath...I too have gone through the absolute craziness of the mental/emotional medication irrationality; at my lowest, I inwardly scream, "have the balls to admit you wish we were on an ice floe with a polar bear so you could cross us off the list! :eek:
I have a appointment with yet another pain specialist on Friday and this time I am writing down the issues...so I don't want to dilute my irritation and yet I need to keep it courteous...but after, do I have some stories...
stay brave, and remember it is not just you, it is the system. Don't you give up either; "they" don't deserve to get off that easy! :rolleyes:

[adrian]

How about teens doing it? If I had a more direct contact to my fellow Explorers, then I think they can do it (its too far for me)

[1stwahine]

How about teens doing it? If I had a more direct contact to my fellow Explorers, then I think they can do it (its too far for me)

Hi Adrian! That's a great idea. Find out from your Adult Leader/Coodinator or call HPD directly. Don't email, they don't respond back. They will be trained how to use and what to look for so the experience for them would be awesome.

Preetyday, mahalo for reading my Blog and I will hang in there.

Everybody have a great day! :D

[prettyday]

"There are no words for how I feel about crystal meth...I lost one of the loves of my life to it; when he was done manipulating and working my heart and my desire, he left me a shell...I had to rebuild myself...already with my past (again, no worse than many others, I was "a bruised one.")"

I need to clarify this point. This young man lived; I think his character changed and not for the better, but he did live...it was I who nearly died with heartbreak; then I found my husband who ironically had just had his heart broken by a girl he loved whose use of the crystal brought out the most manipulative parts of her choices...
You see around here (Ca. from Newport to Hollywood and inland to Palm Springs, there was a division at the time between the crystal users and the cocaine users. Hypocritical? Yes. But there it was, and still is, actually.

I did lose to death a dear and impossible to contain in words, a laughing, carefree full-of-joy friend. I have never met another like her. Ironically she dated my husband before me, after the other girl, and I did not know this...when I found out, I asked her if it was okay to date him. We were honorable friends like that, in the midst of our giddiness, our laughing at everything, our impulsiveness and our respect for each other!
she was French-Canadian, I was French, we understood each other and delighted in so many aspects of our friendship. It is a much longer story than anyone probably wants to hear at this early date in my coming here, but she preferred cocaine, as did I...her loser of a boyfriend cut his coke with speed, telling no one...she partook and had a massive, fatal stroke. We were all a loving and loyal circle of friends; we had been mystified by her choice of men. God forgive me, but when I heard he died in pain and fear not long after, I felt a fierce sense of completion.