Chinatown police seek camera volunteers

[LikaNui]

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If you had read from the beginning of the thread you would have seen why I care so much on this topic. I respect other people's opinions after all this is America. How about respecting mine...MYOB!

I have indeed read from the beginning of the thread, and I absolutely do respect your opinion too. Please take a moment and re-read my earlier comment -- it includes a suggestion for respecting everyone here, yourself included.
Perhaps I should have tried even harder to make that clear.

[LikaNui]

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what you said! the "Unfortunately you still don't get it." is something that never works and serves to do nothing more than cause divisiveness, with its unfortunate implied air of superiority.

Yep. I don't recall the URL to the website that explains Netiquette, but perhaps someone can re-post that link here? Mahalos plenny.
Hopefully it includes the suggestion that if someone is upset, they should wait several hours before posting a reply, giving themselves time to calm down and not post something they'd regret later.

[1stwahine]

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hmmm...you're still here. Oh, well. I did calm down and took my daily drive. Solution. I ain't never gonna give up. As for respecting other people's opinions, I apologize if I come off rude and whatevers. I'm sorry. As for regretting what I may say, I don't think so. I regret that there is no permanent solution to this cause. Whatever interest it gets by people getting mad, giving excuses or others putting their two cents piece in, that's a whole lot better than having no interest at all.

Auntie Lynn of Chinatown

Please Moderator, close this thread. Mahalo.

[prettyday]

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Unfortunately, well, this is just my thought...drugs are a symptom not the disease in solo...

[kimo55]

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Unfortunately, well, this is just my thought...drugs are a symptom not the disease in solo...

right. and it raises many questions:
What are druggies escaping from? Why do they want to punish themselves to such a degree? Why do they hate themselves? What is the root of the problem? IF... druggies are chased away, they continue their activities elsewhere. And if they land in the hoosegow, will that force them into cold turkey? Are there NO drugs in jail?
Will they learn to be more of a hardened criminal in jail?
Does jail help?
IF...ice is eradicated, will it be immediately replaced or substituted by another illicit substance?

[1stwahine]

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it includes a suggestion for respecting everyone here, yourself included.
Perhaps I should have tried even harder to make that clear.

Now, that's funny! Guess you don't really know Auntie Lynn of Chinatown ( quote from someone on the board)...I'm pupule yet, I get things done. Go figure than one out.

What I say today, I may forget tomarrow...or in a second, a minute, or an hour...whatever the case maybe, I stand by dem words that come out of me. have I made myself clear?hehehehehehehehehe

have a great day, LikaNui! No hard feelings. I don't want to be ban from the Forum or Hawai'i Stories since you're a Senior Member?

[prettyday]

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right. and it raises many questions:
What are druggies escaping from? Why do they want to punish themselves to such a degree? Why do they hate themselves? What is the root of the problem? IF... druggies are chased away, they continue their activities elsewhere. And if they land in the hoosegow, will that force them into cold turkey? Are there NO drugs in jail?
Will they learn to be more of a hardened criminal in jail?
Does jail help?
IF...ice is eradicated, will it be immediately replaced or substituted by another illicit substance?

let's see:
"druggies" bless your heart kimo55, no child dreams of being called that when older, but I agree that in this current society, people might as well know the label that will stick...
People want to punish themselves for...a deep and tortured sea of reasons...would it surprise you to know that in the beginning, the drug appears the most gentle bandage yet applied...in varying amounts of time, it grows the poisonous spikes inward that whip the person to the next dose...not right, not at all, but there it is.
The root of the problem is that society in general keeps hoping that mental and emotional illness will just go away...drug companies make their (literal) killing on this hope, and "druggies" learn the 'art of the slink out of sight, fly under the radar.' What a fate for God's creatures, how many legs they may have, two, four...(of course I hate animal testing, especially when it comes to reactions to drug dependence and addiction...rabbits, cats dogs, monkeys, don't live within a family in society for years before that foul lab cage that leads to desperate needs for escape; no! they are artifically caused abject despair What a sin!) As for the human animal and the attempts to make them "just forget! Ha! This should not be. If druggies are chased away, they continue their activities elsewhere, because their pain travels with them...again, this is not a reason or a justification. We must treat the pain...as well as the drug use; and we lie when we tell an alcoholic or a drug user that if they stop using and fix what is bugging them according to what they "tell us," all will resolve. For some of us, it never resolves. We were born this way. I have known I had an emotional problem since 4 years of age...I did not start any substances until my early twenties...I had already tried to leave this life three times seriously and my body was a roadmap of self-inflicted scars...and I am a survivor, a wounded but tough tigress...can you imagine the more fragile ones...I have spent my life trying to save those ones only to realize I was avoiding my own mess. Naturally, I no longer believe in altruism, I have proven that wrong in my case...I am not terminally unique, it follows that others do as I do.
Cold Turkey? Did that...that's another story...when I tell it, You will believe in people blindly taking what the doctor offers, and regretting that they live to regret it.
Yes, they learn to be worse in jail. They lose a large measure of hope for starters; truly the most obscene punishment for any heart of any creature.
Does jail help? I think it could have maybe saved Dana Plato...a little...just to dry out...but no...that would have meant we as a public would have learned there is more to our current news than the CULT OF CELEBRITY, and we might have started asking hard news questions. This of course, can not be allowed to happen.
There are no words for how I feel about crystal meth...I lost one of the loves of my life to it; when he was done manipulating and working my heart and my desire, he left me a shell...I had to rebuild myself...already with my past (again, no worse than many others, I was "a bruised one.")
I did not need the pain that surrounds this substance; nor does anyone bewildered by the sudden change in a loved one...Now, it's too late, yes, another substance will take its place. We would be wiser to come up with a "clean" produced like effect substance and administer it.
It is too late. We lost. If we realize that now, we could turn this "war, WOD," into a battle after all, and win the overall WAR.

[pzarquon]

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I don't know what the heck I just missed here, but I'd just like to say that one can still be outspoken and proud to speak one's mind without dismissing or belittling the views of others. And just because you have the right and ability to say it, doesn't neccessarily mean it has to be said. What makes a community is not just the mix of similarities and differences between its members, but how well they adapt and evolve to share a common space.

Lynn, you make no secret of your close connection to and affection to Chinatown. Just be sure to realize that everyone else here also has a story, and a reason - whether deep or frivolous - to share their thoughts.

I would humbly offer that Albert does get it, or at least understands the realities far better than I. And while drugs make people do stupid things, I think it's the stupid things they should be punished for... the wholesale incarceration of people who, often times, are merely hurting and slowly killing themselves is not the best use of that time and money.

Access to drugs may be a problem, but so are the reasons why people seek them out.

[1stwahine]

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You, I listen to. I apologize from my heart. Honest. I'll discuss in my "living room" from now on.

Preetyday, I loved reading what you wrote...from the heart and soul.
I wish you well and I do respect your views as with everyone elses.

[prettyday]

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Thank you SO much, 1st Wahine! That was kind, and generous; I wento to read the story under your signature, and heaved a deep breath...I too have gone through the absolute craziness of the mental/emotional medication irrationality; at my lowest, I inwardly scream, "have the balls to admit you wish we were on an ice floe with a polar bear so you could cross us off the list!
I have a appointment with yet another pain specialist on Friday and this time I am writing down the issues...so I don't want to dilute my irritation and yet I need to keep it courteous...but after, do I have some stories...
stay brave, and remember it is not just you, it is the system. Don't you give up either; "they" don't deserve to get off that easy!

[adrian]

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How about teens doing it? If I had a more direct contact to my fellow Explorers, then I think they can do it (its too far for me)

[1stwahine]

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How about teens doing it? If I had a more direct contact to my fellow Explorers, then I think they can do it (its too far for me)

Hi Adrian! That's a great idea. Find out from your Adult Leader/Coodinator or call HPD directly. Don't email, they don't respond back. They will be trained how to use and what to look for so the experience for them would be awesome.

Preetyday, mahalo for reading my Blog and I will hang in there.

Everybody have a great day!

[prettyday]

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"There are no words for how I feel about crystal meth...I lost one of the loves of my life to it; when he was done manipulating and working my heart and my desire, he left me a shell...I had to rebuild myself...already with my past (again, no worse than many others, I was "a bruised one.")"

I need to clarify this point. This young man lived; I think his character changed and not for the better, but he did live...it was I who nearly died with heartbreak; then I found my husband who ironically had just had his heart broken by a girl he loved whose use of the crystal brought out the most manipulative parts of her choices...
You see around here (Ca. from Newport to Hollywood and inland to Palm Springs, there was a division at the time between the crystal users and the cocaine users. Hypocritical? Yes. But there it was, and still is, actually.

I did lose to death a dear and impossible to contain in words, a laughing, carefree full-of-joy friend. I have never met another like her. Ironically she dated my husband before me, after the other girl, and I did not know this...when I found out, I asked her if it was okay to date him. We were honorable friends like that, in the midst of our giddiness, our laughing at everything, our impulsiveness and our respect for each other!
she was French-Canadian, I was French, we understood each other and delighted in so many aspects of our friendship. It is a much longer story than anyone probably wants to hear at this early date in my coming here, but she preferred cocaine, as did I...her loser of a boyfriend cut his coke with speed, telling no one...she partook and had a massive, fatal stroke. We were all a loving and loyal circle of friends; we had been mystified by her choice of men. God forgive me, but when I heard he died in pain and fear not long after, I felt a fierce sense of completion.