And so it begins

[tutusue]

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She hasn't posted since last Tuesday - I wonder if the computer has been packed up? (And she didn't even say goodbye... )

Maybe she just left Hawaii but not HT!

[Leo Lakio]

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And surlygirly, I wish you all the Bestest.
(It's been two weeks, so it's gotta be soon.)
Aloha,
MM

She hasn't posted since last Tuesday - I wonder if the computer has been packed up? (And she didn't even say goodbye... )

[Amati]

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, it is hard for them to be satisfied with the beach, huli huli and a six pack on the weekend. .

That is the kind of lifestyle that leads to Rock Fever after awhile.
Now if you toss in a full time job, maybe a marriage and/or kid or two, mortgage, community volunteer work, church or social groups, a few hobbies (besides watersports), well there just is not much time for Rock Fever to set in. Sorry, I've strayed off topic.

[Menehune Man]

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I knew this was coming, but in a little over two weeks, I'm going to be back on the mainland.

There are some terrific, intriguing posts above.
Thanks for sharing those experiences.

And surlygirly, I wish you all the Bestest.
(It's been two weeks, so it's gotta be soon.)
Aloha,
MM

[alohacandy]

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SG, so sorry to hear your news. I remember when I lived here with my first hubby and he got orders to transfer back to Texas. I was so bummed because I had made so many friends here, had gotten my Masters degree at UH and did NOT want to leave. On the day I flew out, I drank a few (okay more than a few) margaritas at a local restaurant with friends and cried as I boarded the plane. People in Corpus Christi who got to know me, knew me as the "girl from Hawaii" who lived for the day that I would return. Long story short... got divorced, married a few years later, made a few trips here....then 23 years later FINALLY moved back with hubby and almost 11 year old daughter. Have been here 6 years now and feel that this is truly home....even if circumstances cause me to leave again (like aging parents). We own a much smaller place than we did in Texas, but we're here where we want to be. Hopefully you'll come back here soon!

[Paul Valenti]

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You got that part right too - I taught at the UW for years and tutored the UW Football Team and I can tell you first hand how many local kids come to the mainland for school and never go home - or at least not until they are older - much older. I am one of them. I miss Hawaii terribly, but the opportunities there are limited and once a young person from someplace like Palolo sees what the mainland has to offer in the way of culture, growth, education, and employment, it is hard for them to be satisfied with the beach, huli huli and a six pack on the weekend. When I was growing up we used to say that if it didn't happen in Hawaii, it didn't happen - all too true for many of my high school friends who have never left - been doing the same things for 40 years - not always bad, but maybe a little frustrating-boring- whatever?

Still love it miss it though and am now about the age I need to be to come and stay - just as soon as my 13 year old goes of to college.

[Menehune Man]

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Just a thought - despite what I said about old Hawaii people, I was only talking about a general feeling - many of us who grew up in Hawaii got pretty frustrated when nearly everyone from the mainland we ever made friends with ended up leaving - it was hard.

Yes, it's true.
And how 'bout all our local born friends that have ended up...
well, worldwide?!
Miss them too.

[Menehune Man]

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...marked the beginning of what I'm afraid is going to be a drawn-out good-bye process... This just sucks.

Hope you're making the best of it?!
I wish you all the bestest and stay a part of the ohana here, 'K!

[Mike_Lowery]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bRQpO1KziU

[Paul Valenti]

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Just a thought - despite what I said about old Hawaii people, I was only talking about a general feeling - many of us who grew up in Hawaii got pretty frustrated when nearly everyone from the mainland we ever made friends with ended up leaving - it was hard. That doeesn't mean we didn't make friends, it only meant that fofr many local people - particularly employers (and my brothers and owned the Valenti Print Group in Kakaako for years) one tried to exercise a little caution - it is expensive and time consuming to train a new employee only to have them get rock fever after 6 months, get tired of the high cost of living, or find it hard to deal with the cultural complexities of the islands and leave. I feel for everyone who has been forced to leave - heck, I have been in forced residence for almost 15 years now because I have an ex-wife who won't live there and a daughter who is a child of the northwest. On the flip side of this discussion, my brothers and I have brought several people to Hawaii in our early years - most of whom have become almost kamaaina themselves - they have nevre left. I hope you get the chance to come back.

[surlygirly]

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I don't even really know you, but I can imagine the sadness you feel. I wish it wouldn't have to happen this way, and you could be able to stay. I have enjoyed reading your posts very much, and like what you have to say to everybody. I wish you the best of luck, and I'm sure I'll still be reading your thoughts here at HT. It's a big world; lots of things can happen. Maybe you'll be back to Hawaii sooner than you think. It could happen.

Safe journeys, Surlygirly...
SB

Aw, thanks SB. Yeah, I plan to stick around here at least. Maybe one day you and I will both be on the island!

[snowbird]

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Well, I'm glad my friends were more open-minded! Although, considering I live in a place with an 85% military demographic, they're a little more willing to take chances on the "let's make the most of the time we have while we can and we'll catch up later in Heaven if we both make it" friendships.

Thanks, guys! If the housing market wasn't so crappy right now, we might be tempted to sell up back home, but we're trying to be responsible adults (for once!). But yeah...we both really do want to come back. At least you guys don't go anywhere!

I don't even really know you, but I can imagine the sadness you feel. I wish it wouldn't have to happen this way, and you could be able to stay. I have enjoyed reading your posts very much, and like what you have to say to everybody. I wish you the best of luck, and I'm sure I'll still be reading your thoughts here at HT. It's a big world; lots of things can happen. Maybe you'll be back to Hawaii sooner than you think. It could happen.

Safe journeys, Surlygirly...
SB

[surlygirly]

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but, old Hawaii people know better than to make friends with someone until they have lived in Hawaii at least three years or more

Well, I'm glad my friends were more open-minded! Although, considering I live in a place with an 85% military demographic, they're a little more willing to take chances on the "let's make the most of the time we have while we can and we'll catch up later in Heaven if we both make it" friendships.

Thanks, guys! If the housing market wasn't so crappy right now, we might be tempted to sell up back home, but we're trying to be responsible adults (for once!). But yeah...we both really do want to come back. At least you guys don't go anywhere!

[Vanguard]

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I'm sorry to hear you are leaving. I was in a very similar situation years ago. I will never give up my dream to come back to the islands. You shouldn't, either!

[AbsolutChaos]

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Sorry to hear you must leave.