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  • #16
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    *flashes an ankle* ~ Amish porn

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    • #17
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      If all else fails, some lawyers become politicians.
      I'm still here. Are you?

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      • #18
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        There are two areas I know that do pretty well here when it comes to attorney occupation:
        immigration law
        property assessment/defense

        So if you can get into real estate with your degree, you've got a pretty good angle. As for immigration law, I'm not sure how well it pays, but we have a lot of immigrants here, and probably more wanting to achieve citizenship legally than what we might hear happening along the mainland-Mexico border.
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        • #19
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          Well that's some pretty good information to start off with. I was just curious really as I am postponing my move to Hawaii for Law School and I didn't want to spend the next several years of my life working towards an education or education focus with no way to turn around and use it. Where I live now, given the school I will attend and my current employment background, IP Law is looking like where I will end up. I've read a few threads suggesting that civil rights is the way to go for Hawaii. In fact, I believe it was UofH(Manoa?) that mentioned its legal emphasis was on this form of law.

          It's kind of funny (in a sad way) the more I think about it. I want to move to Hawaii to change my life style, but going into law will likely perpetuate my life style in the current opposite direction. However, I don't want to move to Hawaii and "just get by" even after working full-time+. Ah crux.

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          • #20
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            Indeed, JG - you are doing the soul-searching you need to do at this point; good on ya.

            I'm sure you'd find IP work just about anywhere there's a university or any businesses that do research, including Hawai`i. If civil-rights issues interest you, go for it, and Hawai`i will likely provide you with opportunities galore, too.

            What's more important to you: the lifestyle or the positive mark you can make? Can you do both? Would you want to? "Lifestyle" can mean something very different in an Island culture, so be open to the changes you might find work better for you.

            "Good lawyer" does not have to be an oxymoron.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by mel
              If all else fails, some lawyers become politicians.
              Sure. Bigger income!
              .
              .

              That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by JasonGuthrie
                Well that's some pretty good information to start off with. I was just curious really as I am postponing my move to Hawaii for Law School and I didn't want to spend the next several years of my life working towards an education or education focus with no way to turn around and use it. Where I live now, given the school I will attend and my current employment background, IP Law is looking like where I will end up. I've read a few threads suggesting that civil rights is the way to go for Hawaii. In fact, I believe it was UofH(Manoa?) that mentioned its legal emphasis was on this form of law.

                It's kind of funny (in a sad way) the more I think about it. I want to move to Hawaii to change my life style, but going into law will likely perpetuate my life style in the current opposite direction. However, I don't want to move to Hawaii and "just get by" even after working full-time+. Ah crux.
                There's a halfway decent law school in Hawai'i (William S. Richardson School of Law), so you don't have to postpone moving here.

                In terms of working as an attorney in Hawai'i, expect to earn 10-20% less than your counterparts in the continental United States. Real estate law, environmental law, international law, and probate law are probably the most lucrative here; however, if you're a good criminal defense attorney you'll probably have more clients that you can handle.

                As mentioned earlier, Hawai'i has more lawyers per capita than any other state and a large percentage of our "homegrown" ones are pursuing careers in other fields, like politics, agriculture, fishing, education, and running beauty salons.

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Jonah K
                  As mentioned earlier, Hawai'i has more lawyers per capita than any other state and a large percentage of our "homegrown" ones are pursuing careers in other fields, like politics, agriculture, fishing, education, and running beauty salons.
                  I'm pretty sure we don't have more lawyers per capita than any other state. Not even close. The figures I noted upthread are a few years old, but still. We have fewer than the national average, and DC is practically infested with 'em!

                  As for lawyers walking away from it all to try new things... well of course! They can afford it.

                  But, yeah, our law school ain't bad -- Top 100 material, according to U.S. News. seems to have dug itself out of some messes a few years ago (it lost its accreditation in 1999).

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Jonah K
                    There's a halfway decent law school in Hawai'i (William S. Richardson School of Law), so you don't have to postpone moving here.

                    In terms of working as an attorney in Hawai'i, expect to earn 10-20% less than your counterparts in the continental United States. Real estate law, environmental law, international law, and probate law are probably the most lucrative here; however, if you're a good criminal defense attorney you'll probably have more clients that you can handle.

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                    Wow, is the crime THAT bad in HI ? How much worse can it be than Los Angeles ?
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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by tikiyaki
                      Wow, is the crime THAT bad in HI ? How much worse can it be than Los Angeles ?
                      alot. remember Hawaii 5-0? there was a major crime here every week.
                      that's why we say; don't move here. Too much pilikia everywhere.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by tikiyaki
                        Wow, is the crime THAT bad in HI ? How much worse can it be than Los Angeles ?
                        I don't think it's comparable at all. Remember, the quantity of crime reporting, historically, is often said to be at odds with the overall prevalence of crime. Crimes that are common don't make the news, crimes that are very uncommon (like the Mau-Goffredo case) get lots and lots of ink.

                        This 2004 report from the state Attorney General notes a general downward trend. I can easily see numbers on the rise, though, given the growing prevalence of drug addiction and perhaps even desperation given homelessness. Suffice it to say, yes, criminal law might very well be a growth industry.

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by kimo55
                          alot. remember Hawaii 5-0? there was a major crime here every week.
                          that's why we say; don't move here. Too much pilikia everywhere.
                          Yea, Kimo, that's what YOU say...but by now I've figured out that your agenda is to have the islands to yourself, and keep us mainlanders out ;-) Besides, being from NY and living in LA, crime is no stranger to me.
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                          • #28
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                            Oh, and don't forget immigration law.

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