The 2008 Presidential Elections - Chapter 3

[LikaNui]

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From CNN a few moments ago:

Should Barack Obama and John McCain debate on Friday?

Yes... 57%... 95,375

Yes, but the topic should be the economy... 22%... 37,642

No, they should work on the bailout... 21%... 35,784

Total Votes: 168,801

That's a combined 79% for Yes.

[Walkoff Balk]

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I saw Letterman last night. He went off on Sen. McCain when he disrespected him by not appearing on his show, but was in makeup to do another show.

[tutusue]

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I saw Letterman last night. He went off on Sen. McCain when he disrespected him by not appearing on his show, but was in makeup to do another show.

Almost 1.5 million hits in one day!!!

[Frankie's Market]

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I saw Letterman last night. He went off on Sen. McCain when he disrespected him by not appearing on his show, but was in makeup to do another show.

That other show was CBS Evening News with Katie Couric.

What got Letterman steamed up wasn't so much that McCain decided to be interviewed by Couric during what is, after all, a looming economic crisis. But Dave was besides himself when he found out that McCain flat out lied to him, saying that he couldn't appear on Letterman because he had to race back to Washington for the negotiations on the proposed bailout.

Big mistake, if you ask me. Dave showing the CBS News feed exposed to the audience yet another example of McCain lying to the public. And when you cross Dave, you're just asking to be lampooned by him. Adding insult to injury, Letterman's substitute guest was none other than Keith Olbermann who (as you might expect) didn't dissuade the host in blasting McCain.

[matapule]

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I am vay disappointed in my guy, Joe Biden. He made a statement today that McCain's plan to tax employer provided health insurance would be the largest ever. That is true. What Biden neglected to say is that McCain's tax increase would be accompanied by a tax credit of a greater amount than the tax increase.

Shame on you Joe. You don't need to ruin your crediblity that way.

[Ron Whitfield]

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He hasn't had a truckload of credibility to my mind, and was a poor pick for VP. The less opportunities he has to tickle his tonsils with his toes, the better.

[tutusue]

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Reflecting back on HT posts that refer to McCain's "vile" temper and his "McNasty" nickname, I found the following article interesting:

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"There is no McCain temper; I've never seen it...He's as healthy as a horse and as young as one too...We never argue.'' Ever? "No, we do not argue."

Being called the "C" word in public doesn't qualify as being on the receiving end of a temper? This lady doesn't live in the state of Arizona. She lives in the state of Denial.

[Vanguard]

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Despite popular accounts, researchers found that Barack Obama got more negative press coverage than John McCain did in the early summer

DAMN YOU LIBERAL MEDIA! STOP MALIGNING MY MAIN MAN MCCAIN!

[Walkoff Balk]

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DAMN YOU LIBERAL MEDIA! STOP MALIGNING MY MAIN MAN MCCAIN!

Much malign McCain makes many manini mistakes.

[matapule]

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In a previous post, I alluded to McCain's penchant for gambling. He prefers Craps (dice) a high risk game based on pure luck rather than on any strategy. You can read about his connection to the gambling industry here.

Here is a snippet of the article:

For much of his adult life, Mr. McCain has gambled as often as once a month, friends and associates said, traveling to Las Vegas for weekend betting marathons. Former senior campaign officials said they worried about Mr. McCain’s patronage of casinos, given the power he wields over the industry. The officials, like others interviewed for this article, spoke on condition of anonymity.

I don't have a problem with McCain's "hobby," I just don't want a high roller and risk taker as my President.

[Frankie's Market]

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Reflecting back on HT posts that refer to McCain's "vile" temper and his "McNasty" nickname, I found the following article interesting:

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Away from the cameras and in private, many can vouch for McCain's short fuse and sharp bursts of anger. But for years, those in Congress and the press who have witnessed it have tended to be hush-hush about it, not wanting to badmouth a man who is, after all, regarded as an American hero for his service record in Vietnam. It's one thing to have looked the other way and give McCain the benefit of the doubt on his temperament when it came to being a representative, and later, a senator. But for the presidency? That's a whole 'nother ballgame, when the fate of the free world is in the hands of someone who has trouble being level-headed in the face of a difficult situation.

Being called the "C" word in public doesn't qualify as being on the receiving end of a temper? This lady doesn't live in the state of Arizona. She lives in the state of Denial.

That may be so. But as long as she chooses to continue on in this relationship, however abusive and dysfunctional it may be,.... that is her choice. Being the heiress to a beer distributorship from the time she was born, Cindy McCain is obviously not staying in this marriage because she needs the money.

[tutusue]

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[...]But for the presidency? That's a whole 'nother ballgame, when the fate of the free world is in the hands of someone who has trouble being level-headed in the face of a difficult situation.

Exactly. I don't think he's capable of staying cool in a hot situation and that has the potential of being disastrous for all of us.

[...]Cindy McCain is obviously not staying in this marriage because she needs the money.

My uneducated guess is that their long distance marriage has helped them stay together. Still, dropping the "C" bomb, either in private or in public, would be the deal breaker for me!

[Vanguard]

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Kissinger is against negotiations with Iran

Kissinger is for negotiations with Iran

Exactly. I don't think he's capable of staying cool in a hot situation and that has the potential of being disastrous for all of us.

My uneducated guess is that their long distance marriage has helped them stay together. Still, dropping the "C" bomb, either in private or in public, would be the deal breaker for me!

This.

There is some controversy, regarding whether or not McCain said "horse****" during the debate. IMO, it's not a big jump from using the "C" bomb.

[timkona]

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Over in the Palin thread, Vanguard was nice enough to post an article that deserves further examination. Please excuse the length of this post. It's Sunday morning, football is on, bacon is sizzling, Raiders at 10am.

Palin said US should launch across the border attacks into Pakistan to nab terrorists.

Obama said "If you got Bin Laden in your sights.....you should take them out"

Sounds like Obama and Palin are on the same page on this one right?

Wait a minute. McCain says "Obama tough talk is naive." And then “You don’t say that out loud,”

So allow me to paraphrase. McCain sounds mature enough to know that the Cheney/Rumsfeld method is prolly the best idea when it comes to hunting terror. Send Ninja's, and keep your mouth shut, unless you get caught doing it. And it says a lot about McCain's judgement, especially if you think open/truthful government is the best thing for America. Basically, he would do it too, even though he's trying to sound critical of Obama.

Obama sounds gung-ho, and immature enough, not to know that these kinds of plans are best kept a total secret. And he would never admit that crossing the border, without Pakistan's permission, in a secret mission, would make Cheney/Rumsfeld real happy. Plus, everybody has heard the story of the SPECOPS guys who think they saw Bin Laden heading over the next mountain, and were not allowed to pursue.

And Palin is just talking from her gut, like the voice of a lot of Americans who want the war to end via the capture of Bin Laden. That is the golden key. The funny part is that Palin did not get the memo about the whole secret thing. So it comes out like she disagree's with McCain, and agrees with Obama.

But here is the rub. All 3 of them agree totally. And all of America feels the same way, except the fruits and nuts crowd. The capture of Bin Laden would far outweigh the international pilikia created when US invades Pakistan. In fact, if Obama wins the election, there is no question about the fact that the best thing he could do to usher in a truly new era, would be to capture Bin Laden right away.

Even if that means invading Pakistan. You go, Obama.

Dems, I'm talking from the gut right now. And I like Obama better and better all the time.

[GregLee]

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The capture of Bin Laden would far outweigh the international pilikia created when US invades Pakistan.

In deciding whether to invade, you have to take account of the possibility that Bin Laden might not be captured, even though that was the intent of the invasion. Just as invading another country to prevent its use of weapons of mass destruction might turn out to be a little embarassing if after the invasion no such weapons could be found.