Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

[matapule]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

The answer to your question, IMHO, was thoroughly outlined more than a week ago, in post #47. And unlike in McCain’s case, the issue raised in post #54, further frames the issue as unresolved.

McCain lied about his affair too, at a minimum to his first wife. So my question remains unresolved.

[Leo Lakio]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Why is it that Edwards' political career is over and not McCain's too? McCain admitted that he had an extramarital affair (with his current wife) while still married to his first wife. I don't get it. I'm not casting judgement, just trying to be logical.

Check out this blog piece, with video. Alan Colmes goes after Sean Hannity on this topic - and Hannity claims McCain's ex-war prisoner status made it OK to have the affair which led to the divorce of his first wife.

[TuNnL]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

The answer to your question, IMHO, was thoroughly outlined more than a week ago, in post #47. And unlike in McCain’s case, the issue raised in post #54, further frames the issue as unresolved.

McCain lied about his affair too, at a minimum to his first wife.

Who cares? Did McCain lie to the American people, on multiple occasions about it (as Edwards did)? Apples and oranges, matapule..please get a clue.

So my question remains unresolved.

Not really. McCain resolved his infidelity by divorcing his first wife and marrying the woman he was banging on the side — well before any Presidential run. In contrast, it has NOT been resolved whether or not Edwards is the father of his mistress’ child. As stated earlier, his denials directly conflict with accounts given by Rielle Hunter’s friend and sister. The baby girl’s birth certificate is blank.

[Random]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

But, we all aren't politicians entrusted with the fate of an entire nation. Trust matters. See timkona's quote above!

If that's the case, no human should be serving on the Capitol Hill.

Heck, we don't even have a procedure to SWIFTLY remove people in such high position for violating our trust. (He violated my trust since I have a pretty high standards when it comes to the sanctity of marriage.) Slick Willy was able to serve his full term. So, the guy who denies having extramarital affairs (plural) can still get away, while those own up to their sins -- regardless of how long he held it before confessing -- should be punished?

[Kalihiboy]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Maybe Joe Biden is putting up a smoke screen by saying he isn't the guy. Because it seems more and more he just might be:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-..._b_119933.html

and

http://www.rr.com/view/content/story...9000&view=HOME

[Frankie's Market]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Maybe Joe Biden is putting up a smoke screen by saying he isn't the guy. Because it seems more and more he just might be:

And what do you know? Biden's name wasn't even on the poll's list. Talk about a dark horse possibly coming out on top.

Biden offers perhaps the best single package to shore up Obama's weaknesses. He has the govt. experience, foreign policy savvy, appeals to Catholics and working class white males. He's also a smart debater and not afraid to talk tough about his opponents on the campaign trail. Perhaps the only other candidate who could complement the Obama ticket better is Hillary. But of course, Biden comes without the baggage of Bill Clinton.

If Obama was more concerned about picking someone that he liked and felt comfortable with, it probably would have been Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine. If Obama was looking for a running mate with the idea of securing a key battleground state on the electoral map, it would have been Indiana Senator Evan Bayh. But it appears that Obama is looking beyond these factors in selecting his veep.

[matapule]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

See post #27 in this thread.....he said with a smirk.

[Ron Whitfield]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

None of the remaining 4 are top shelf, which leaves Mr. Who? - Sam Nunn, for me, as the best choice.

[tutusue]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

If that's the case, no human should be serving on the Capitol Hill.

You got it!

Heck, we don't even have a procedure to SWIFTLY remove people in such high position for violating our trust. (He violated my trust since I have a pretty high standards when it comes to the sanctity of marriage.) Slick Willy was able to serve his full term. So, the guy who denies having extramarital affairs (plural) can still get away, while those own up to their sins -- regardless of how long he held it before confessing -- should be punished?

Nope...didn't say that and, hopefully, didn't imply that! I had hoped "Willy" woulda been kicked to the curb and that Hillary woulda slammed him with divorce papers. That he got away with it and she's still by his side makes no sense to me. Then, again, I'm not a politician. Thank God!

[matapule]

I had hoped "Willy" woulda been kicked to the curb and that Hillary woulda slammed him with divorce papers. That he got away with it and she's still by his side makes no sense to me. Then, again, I'm not a politician.

Ahh' Tutu, where's the forgiveness in you? True love has no limits.

Who cares? Did McCain lie to the American people, on multiple occasions about it (as Edwards did)? Apples and oranges, matapule..please get a clue.

Tunnl, I have to agree with you, I DON'T have a clue. You see, I think lying to your spouse about a private matter (McCain) is more aggregious that lying to the American People about a private matter (Edwards). Just call me old fashioned. I'm not condoning Edward's behavior, just trying to put it into perspective

As far as lying to the American People......over 4000 US dead, countless Iraqis dead........where are those Weapons of Mass Destruction? I don't have a clue. Can someone please give me a clue?

[TuNnL]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

And what do you know? Biden's name wasn't even on the poll's list. Talk about a dark horse possibly coming out on top.

I considered putting Biden’s name in the “other” category, but figured someone as heavyweight as him deserved his own slot, and HT polls only allow 10. In hindsight, his name should have replaced Edwards.

Biden offers perhaps the best single package to shore up Obama's weaknesses. He has the govt. experience, foreign policy savvy, appeals to Catholics and working class white males. He's also a smart debater and not afraid to talk tough about his opponents on the campaign trail.

Clearly if the short list has dwindled down to the choices in Leo’s article, Obama would be foolish not to pick Biden.

Perhaps the only other candidate who could complement the Obama ticket better is Hillary. But of course, Biden comes without the baggage of Bill Clinton.

I disagree that it’s only about the baggage. Hillary represents the old guard in both her message and her actions. Choosing her would directly conflict with Obama’s message of change in Washington.

[tutusue]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Ahh' Tutu, where's the forgiveness in you? True love has no limits.

Close! But I'll amend that to read...True love of politics has no limits!

[Frankie's Market]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

I considered putting Biden’s name in the “other” category, but figured someone as heavyweight as him deserved his own slot, and HT polls only allow 10. In hindsight, his name should have replaced Edwards.

I wouldn't fault including Edwards' name, at the time. Nobody saw the Rielle Hunter scandal coming. Except for avid readers of the National Enquirer.

I disagree that it’s only about the baggage. Hillary represents the old guard in both her message and her actions. Choosing her would directly conflict with Obama’s message of change in Washington.

Well, what is Biden, then? He's as old guard as they come. He's been in Washington 20 years longer than the Clintons. In fact, when Biden was first elected to the Senate, Bill and Hillary were still students at Yale Law School.

If you ask me, selecting Biden also runs against the idea of "change in Washington." But since people have reservations about Obama for his inexperience, the only way to allay those concerns is to select a running mate who has the experience.

This all sounds like typical whining from the conservative media. If Obama picks Clinton or Biden to be his running mate, they'll say, "I thought he was supposed to be the candidate of change." If he picks someone like Tim Kaine, then they'll say, "How can Obama pick an inexperienced guy like Kaine when he himself has such a short resume?" But of course, for the conservative pundits, Obama isn't supposed to make a good choice, either way.

[Random]

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As far as lying to the American People......over 4000 US dead, countless Iraqis dead........where are those Weapons of Mass Destruction? I don't have a clue. Can someone please give me a clue?

Weapons of Mass Destruction: Saddam Hussein and his two sons.

[TuNnL]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Nobody saw the Rielle Hunter scandal coming. Except for avid readers of the National Enquirer.

Actually, the Enquirer can’t take credit for breaking the story. It first made print in the New York Post in August 2007, albeit in a much more vague way. Speaking of Reille, she has broken her silence, in a “10-3” for an “083” kind of way.

Well, what is Biden, then? He's as old guard as they come. He's been in Washington 20 years longer than the Clintons.

I agree completely. As I said previously, he is the best choice if (and only if) the remaining candidates have dwindled down to the ones outlined in Leo’s article.