Obama v. The Birthers

[Ron Whitfield]

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Smoking Gun-Michelle Obama: "Barack's home country is Kenya".
Specifically stated at 45 seconds into the video. Need I say more?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDHD...eature=related

Thanx, but we've seen your Obama hate card enuf. I'd love to see the day when it's discovered that he really isn't an American, just to watch the birther's heads pop off. Even if true, it's over, and there's squat that can be done about it except enjoy the fact that he avoided Bush's financial mega-disasters and is actually turning the overloaded Bush poo scow around, and by November the elections should be far less than the haters are hoping for.

[Bobinator]

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Thanx, but we've seen your Obama hate card enuf. I'd love to see the day when it's discovered that he really isn't an American, just to watch the birther's heads pop off. Even if true, it's over, and there's squat that can be done about it except enjoy the fact that he avoided Bush's financial mega-disasters and is actually turning the overloaded Bush poo scow around, and by November the elections should be far less than the haters are hoping for.

Still walking in the dark, eh? Oh well, we need someone to blame. It couldn't possibly have been the Democrat-controlled Congress who unanimously approved funding for the war.

The topic of this thread is about what "Birthers" are saying. If you don't wanna hear it, you're welcome to leave this discussion. If you want to see that Obama isn't an American, then it says a lot about your principles. You don't have any, particularly with regard to the Constitution. Does that make you anti-American? Everyone can judge for themselves.

By the way, he is an American, although he may have dual citizenship. I dunno. All I know is he hasn't shown proof he's a natural born citizen as defined by the Constitution. And all the evidence to date is pointing toward the idea that he is not.

Your undying support for this man and his socialist agenda over and above the Constitution indicates you're not loyal to your country.

BTW, standing up for truth, justice and the American way does not make me a hater. It makes me an American. A natural born one.

[Bobinator]

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My home country is Tonga, so what? I was born in the US but consider Tonga my home country. So what? Oh, I also consider Ireland, England, Germany, Hungary my home countries because that's where my ancestors immigrated from. So what?

Define "Home Country". "Home country", as defined on Dictionary.com is- "the country in which a person was born and usually raised, regardless of the present country of residence and citizenship.

Did Barak Hussein grow up in Kenya?.. Or was he BORN there!?

[matapule]

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as defined on Dictionary.com is- "the country in which a person was born and usually raised, regardless of the present country of residence and citizenship.

Yeah, and Dictionary.com defines "idiot" as: an utterly foolish or senseless person.

[Bobinator]

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Yeah, and Dictionary.com defines "idiot" as: an utterly foolish or senseless person.

I feel like I'm in grade school again.

[Ron Whitfield]

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It couldn't possibly have been the Democrat-controlled Congress who unanimously approved funding for the war.

It wasn't quite unanimous, 2 Dems held out, and all were lied to by Bush. If you were planning to say they had the same exact info Bush had, don't, they did not.

You run with the unbridled hate crowd and believe/say what they do, but I'm glad to hear you're not a hater, just an ill-informed American. Carry on.

[TuNnL]

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It wasn't quite unanimous, 2 Dems held out, and all were lied to by Bush.

Don't forget one Republican also held out — Ron Paul.

[Bobinator]

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Here's Lt. Col. Lakin's letter to Obama that's causing quite a stir. If you agree with the content, you must be a person of hate... According to Ron Whitfield-


March 30, 2010

The Honorable Barack Obama
President of the United States of America
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. President:

For more than seventeen years, I have had the privilege of serving my country as a member of the U.S. Armed Forces, including overseas assignments in imminent danger/combat areas in Bosnia and Afghanistan.

The United States is an example to the rest of the world of a stable, civilized democratic government where all men are created equal and the rule of law is cherished and obeyed. The U.S. military teaches and promotes the rule of law and civilian control of the military to many other nations and militaries around the world. Every soldier learns what constitutes a lawful order and is encouraged to stand up and object to unlawful orders. My officer's oath of office requires that I swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. I recently received deployment orders for a second deployment to Afghanistan. My orders included a requirement to bring copies of my birth certificate. I will provide a certified copy of my original birth certificate with common, standard identifiers, including the name of an attending physician and a hospital. Every day in transactions across the country, American citizens are required to prove their identity, and standards for identification have become even stricter since the terrorist attacks on 9/11.

Since the fall of 2008, I have been troubled by reports that your original birth certificate remains concealed from public view along with many other records which, if released, would quickly end questions surrounding your place of birth and "natural born" status. Many people mistake the online Certification of Live Birth for an original birth certificate. Until the summer of 2009, the Hawaiian Department of Homelands would not accept this Certification of Live Birth to determine native Hawaiian identity — the Department insisted upon also reviewing an original birth certificate. Many do not understand that the online document was from 2007, generated by computer, laser-printed, and merely a certification that there is an original birth certificate on file which may or may not be sufficiently probative. An original birth certificate is the underlying document that presumably includes a hospital and attending physician's or midwife's name that should lay to rest the "natural born" dispute.

In 2008, after pressure from the news media, Senator McCain produced an original birth certificate from the Panama Canal Zone; a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing examined and affirmed his "natural born" status and Constitutional eligibility to serve as President. The U.S. Senate was silent about your eligibility, despite statements from Kenyan citizens that you were born in Mombasa, including your paternal grandmother and the Ambassador from Kenya to the U.S. during a radio interview. Hawaiian state officials claim they cannot release an original birth certificate without your consent.

I have attempted through my chain of command for many months to get answers to the questions surrounding your eligibility. I also sought answers, unsuccessfully, through my Congressional delegation. You serve as my Commander-in-Chief. Given the fact that the certification that your campaign posted online was not a document that the Hawaiian Department of Homelands regarded as a sufficient substitute for the original birth certificate and given that it has been your personal decision that has prevented the Hawaiian Department of Health from releasing your original birth certificate or any Hawaiian hospital from releasing your records, the burden of proof must rest with you.

Please assure the American people that you are indeed constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief and thereby may lawfully direct service members into harm's way. I will be proud to deploy to Afghanistan to further serve my country and my fellow soldiers, but I should only do so with the knowledge that this important provision of our Constitution is respected and obeyed. The people that continue to risk their lives and give the ultimate sacrifice to the service of our country deserve to know they do so upholding their vows to the oath of office and the Constitution.

Unless it is established (by this sufficient proof that should be easily within your power to provide) that you are constitutionally eligible to serve as President and my Commander-in-Chief, I, and all other military officers may be following illegal orders. Therefore, sir, until an original birth certificate is brought forward that validates your eligibility and puts to rest the other reasonable questions surrounding your unproven eligibility; I cannot in good conscience obey ANY military orders.

Respectfully,
Terry Lakin
Lieutenant Colonel Terrence Lakin, USA

[anapuni808]

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What is the "Hawaiian Department of Homelands" that the letter writer mentions? If he means "Hawaiian Homelands", what does that have to do with Obama? He isn't applying for a lease!

People who write letters like this and protest things should really check their facts and be accurate with what they are writing about. This man obviously is just repeating what he has been told by others.

My daughter's original birth certificate IS available to me, as her parent. It is not available to just any person who might ask. Same with Obama's certificate. What he has provided is acceptable in every government agency, court, licensing bureau, passport agency - everywhere.

I know Bob won't be reading this but I had to say it anyway I'm sure the "birthers" suspect that a fake birth announcement was published in the newspapers here because someone knew that in 40+ years, Obama would be elected president and they just wanted to be ready for it!

[Kaonohi]

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Looks to me like somebody doesn't want to go to Afganistan again....

He should spend more time reading the UCMJ and less time reading subversive controversy.

[Leo Lakio]

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What he has provided is acceptable in every government agency, court, licensing bureau, passport agency - everywhere.

As noted before, this fact is utterly irrelevant to the Bobinators of this nation. (You may recall that I asked him about this, and he continued to ask me to repeat my question, even though I and others did so for him on several occasions. What would psychologists call his behavior?)

People like him are so upset that a candidate they disagree with was elected President that they can not think straight - and there are propagandists who will continue to feed and encourage his delusions to serve their needs, even to the point of not-so-subtly hinting at violent behavior towards duly-elected representatives.

It won't be long before one of these twisted types takes out their anger on a public official, and those who assisted in their reality-denial will privately rub their hands in glee, while publicly pretending to be astounded that someone would sink to such a level.

[buzz1941]

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It's called "Birthism." Essentially, it's a religious catechism.

http://www.honoluluagonizer.com/?p=962

[Ron Whitfield]

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Lt. Col. Lakin

He'll be doing time, and rightfully so, ...whereas thankfully 1st Lt. Watada beat the BS rap due to military overaggressive vindictiveness.
Gotta love it when justice finds a way to prevail in spite of it all.

[tutusue]

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Very interesting article, Burl. Looks like I'm a Birthism infidel. And proud of it. Amen...

[Bobinator]

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He'll be doing time, and rightfully so, ...whereas thankfully 1st Lt. Watada beat the BS rap due to military overaggressive vindictiveness.
Gotta love it when justice finds a way to prevail in spite of it all.

Justice? That's a strange interpretation of justice. More like irony.

Here's a news article quoting a Kenyan official, a member of parliament, confessing that Obama was born there, and is, "not even an native American". Try not to let your head pop.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=139481