Re: Gun Control
Thank you for the link. I have reread the article several times to try and understand what it is saying. I ask that you reread it again too. Here is the crux of the problem, "The age of victims and suspects has fallen over the past three years as the availability of firearms in some cities has risen." This supports my position. More firearms equals more gun violence! This article was specific to two cities in England, Liverpool and Manchester. It was also specific to the 19 to 24 y.o. age group. As the article points out, the issue is youth gangs where gangs are taking each other out. Nowhere in the article does it say that this violence is being visited on the population as a whole, just one gang against another. We have a similar problem in Mexico who it is one drug cartel against another. The average Mexican citizen lives a relatively (compared to the US) peaceful life. The cartels run the numbers way up and it appears that Mexico, as a whole, is violent. Nothing could be further from the truth. Matapule (as a non-drug cartel member) is less likely to experience gun violence in Mexico than he does in SoCal, despite what the statistics might say!
It is injudicious to extrapolate the data from two cities in England and to a specific age group to England as a whole. The fact is that, as a whole, gun violence is down in England since the introduction of the gun ban. Let me give an example here in the US of how your conclusions based on limited data is incorrect. I will concur that Florida has relaxed its private gun ownership laws and the number of deaths in Florida has gone down. But you cannot conclude that for the rest of the US. In fact, for all the other States where private gun ownership has been relaxed, gun violence has increased! If you factor in all the US, gun violence has increased as gun ownership has increased.
In conclusion, the link provided supports my research to enact strict gun control now.
Me too, but this thread is about gun control. I'm retired so I have plenty of time to research the issues, slog through the data, and come to conclusions.
Originally posted by MyopicJoe
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It is injudicious to extrapolate the data from two cities in England and to a specific age group to England as a whole. The fact is that, as a whole, gun violence is down in England since the introduction of the gun ban. Let me give an example here in the US of how your conclusions based on limited data is incorrect. I will concur that Florida has relaxed its private gun ownership laws and the number of deaths in Florida has gone down. But you cannot conclude that for the rest of the US. In fact, for all the other States where private gun ownership has been relaxed, gun violence has increased! If you factor in all the US, gun violence has increased as gun ownership has increased.
In conclusion, the link provided supports my research to enact strict gun control now.
Of course I'm interested all forms of violence and not just gun violence. Digging stuff up and trying to verify them is a slow slog.
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