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  • #16
    The government continues to outsource the Iraq war

    It started out with Blackwater agents guarding certain key members of the Iraqi government and has spread even farther today. The highly trained elite ex-members of the SEALS, Green Berets, and other Special Forces units from other countries are hiring themselves out as security guards for as much as $1,000 a day. Their tours of duty only have to last 4 months or less in order for them to make enough money not to have to work for the rest of the year.

    "...Aegis, together with the more than 50 foreign security companies licensed to operate in Iraq, is the new face of warfare. For as the western world's armed forces have shrunk from government defence cuts in the post-cold-war era, the business of war has been progressively privatised. Nowhere more than by America in Iraq, where the overstretched US military has had to hand over tasks it would normally perform itself to these PSCs.

    Historically, there is nothing new about the military's use of private contractors. But Iraq has seen the subcontracting-out of war on an unprecedented scale. Whereas in the first Gulf war there was one private contractor serving on the ground for every 50 American soldiers, it is estimated that there is now one contractor for fewer than 10 servicemen, probably saving the Americans the cost of fielding an entire extra division, according to Spicer.

    The truth is that the US can no longer manage a war like Iraq without private contractors. Its military has shrunk from 2.1m to 1.4m since the end of the cold war, creating a severe shortage of manpower in wartime.

    The American forte in warfare is firepower. But in Iraq, the tradition of fighting through the massive deployment of troops and armour which had applied since the second world war went out of the window. The American defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, argued for "invasion lite" where air power, information dominance and speed would favour a small, agile force packing a big punch.

    He was proved right with his "shock and awe" campaign. A small American force quickly overwhelmed the Iraqi army and captured Baghdad. But the 140,000 uniformed American troops who remain behind have proved insufficient and inadequate to deal with the explosive complexity of the post-invasion period. The Americans have found using PSCs is convenient, affordable and apparently effective.

    The threats these foreign security companies are asked to meet, however, provide a grim summary of the dangers American and British forces still face 2½ years after President Bush declared the main fighting in Iraq over. A typical PSC contract says they have to be prepared to deal with all manner of dangers: vehicles containing explosive devices, improvised explosives planted on roads, direct fire and ground assaults by upwards of 12 personnel with military rifles, machineguns and rocket-propelled grenades, indirect fire by mortars and rockets, individual suicide bombers, and employment of other weapons of mass destruction in an unconventional warfare setting.

    These PSCs saturate the highways of war-torn Iraq, their armoured Land Cruisers and Chevrolet Suburbans packed with armed men brandishing rifles to clear traffic in which a suicide bomber may be lurking out of their way. They are doing one of the most dangerous jobs in the world: escorting convoys, guarding diplomats and officials, and protecting infrastructure from attack.

    The companies employ as many as 25,000 armed foreigners and Iraqi civilians; many are special-forces veterans from the British and American armies. They also recruit many soldiers from South Africa and ex-Gurkhas....

    "...There are complaints that security companies are poaching highly trained American and British special-forces soldiers with these huge salaries. The Pentagon has responded by offering $150,000 cash bonuses for special-forces soldiers to re-enlist. The British have yet to react to the threat. The British Army likes to claim that Britain, with 8,500 men, has the second largest contingent in Iraq after the Americans. Clearly this is false. That distinction has to go to these PSCs; their security forces outnumber the British by a factor of 2½ to 1, and they have suffered more casualties. More than 300 private contractors and security men have been killed.

    Questions are now being asked inside and outside the military about the virtues of allowing a shadow army to operate in Iraq that is largely unregulated and beyond the law. The system is also under scrutiny as a result of several shooting incidents in which civilians were killed or wounded. "It's the Wild West," says Peter Singer, a former Pentagon official and expert on the private military industry who is now a foreign-policy fellow at the Brookings Institution think-tank in Washington and a critic of privatising war....

    "...The $293m Pentagon contract Aegis was awarded in May last year, which runs until 2007, evolved out of an atrocity that shook America: the lynching of four American private security contractors escorting a supply convoy to Falluja, west of Baghdad. The gruesome pictures of two of their charred bodies hanging from a bridge reminded the American public of the shocking lynching of soldiers in Mogadishu and forced the US Marines — who did not even know the contractors were in their area — to attack the city to hunt the killers. Hundreds of Iraqis and dozens of marines were killed and large parts of Falluja were razed.

    The killings of the Americans made the US military realise it had to solve a serious co-ordination problem with the legion of foreign security contractors flourishing in Iraq.

    It had also become imperative for it to make the work of American government agencies and reconstruction firms in Iraq safer. The Bush administration's plan to stabilise Iraq by funding a $24 billion reconstruction programme was foundering as insurgents targeted the infrastructure and anyone involved in protecting it or working for the US or Iraqi government.

    As a result, the Pentagon tendered to the private sector to set up a system to co-ordinate and track all the private security forces operating in Iraq. Spicer came up with a remedy that the Pentagon liked. He devised the idea of a computerised control centre in Baghdad called the ROC (Reconstruction Operations Centre) plugged directly into the US military, which would use Tapestry, a civilianised version of Blue Force, the American military satellite system, to track every convoy and private security team moving through the country. He is contracted to provide protective and preventive security using qualified personnel with experience in anti-terrorism operations, to supply escorts and close personal protection to those involved in reconstruction work and — perhaps most innovatively for a security company — to run a "hearts and minds" campaign among Iraqis...."

    Meanwhile our troops continue to occupy Iraq and are being killed or wounded in large numbers because of a lack of body armor and poorly maintained equipment. These brave troops are not in Iraq for the money like the mercenaries but for a far nobler cause.

    Miulang
    "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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    • #17
      Vietnam redux

      In case there is any one in this country naive enough to believe that our government (whichever regime happens to be in power at the time) isn't capable of fabricating and distorting information just to get us into war, it was revealed today that the National Security Agency (NSA) deliberately withheld the truth regarding an incident in the Tonkin Gulf which was one of the catalysts that caused us to go to war in Vietnam.

      "...the initial misinterpretation of North Vietnamese intercepts was probably an honest mistake. But after months of detective work in the agency's archives, Mr Hanyok concluded mid-level agency officials discovered the error almost immediately, but covered it up and doctored documents so that they appeared to provide evidence of an attack.

      "Rather than come clean about their mistake, they helped launch the United States into a bloody war that would last for 10 years," Mr Aid said.

      President Lyndon Johnson cited the August 4 episode to persuade Congress in 1964 to authorise military action in Vietnam, despite doubts about the attack that arose almost immediately. Asked about Mr Hanyok's research, an agency spokesman, Don Weber, said the agency intended to release the material late next month but delayed the release "in an effort to be consistent with our preferred practice of providing the public [with] a more contextual perspective".

      The intelligence official said agency staff historians first pushed for public release in 2002, but the idea lost momentum in 2003, in part because of the concerns about parallels with Iraq intelligence. Mr Aid said he had heard from other intelligence officials the same explanation for the delay in public release.

      Robert McNamara, who as defence secretary played a central role in the Tonkin Gulf affair, said in an interview he had never been told of evidence intelligence had been altered to shore up the scant evidence of a North Vietnamese attack.

      "That really is surprising to me," said Mr McNamara, 89. Mr Hanyok said Mr McNamara had used the altered intercepts in 1964 and 1968 in testimony before Congress. "I think they ought to make all the material public, period," he said.

      The supposed second North Vietnamese attack, on the US destroyers Maddox and C. Turner Joy, played a significant role in history. Johnson responded by ordering retaliatory airstrikes on North Vietnam and obtaining congressional backing for war."

      Miulang
      "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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      • #18
        WW2 redux

        Re: US War on Iraq, Vietnam redux

        The US Wars Department (aka, "Defense" Department) does not encourage comparisons of its US Iraq War to its US War on Vietnam, or Korea or any US wars or subterfuges post WW2. Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld's US Wars Department loves WW2 comparisons to enhance the image of their Terror War**.

        Linked from US Wars Department the following Marines Return to the Fight story is just such an example. One must ask: What is "the Fight" these Marines are returning to, not in the South Pacific and not against the Japanese?

        Marines Return to the Fight
        CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq, Oct. 31, 2005 – The last time 5th Battalion, 14th Marines, 4th Marine Division, was deployed to a combat zone Franklin D. Roosevelt was president and the United States was in a world war against the Japanese in the South Pacific.

        Arriving here late September after more than 60 years of readiness, the battalion is back in the fight.

        Various elements of 5th Bn., 14th Marines, served in support of Operation Desert Storm in the early 1990s, however this marks the first time the whole battalion was deployed to a combat zone since World War II.

        For these Marines, transitioning from an artillery unit to a provisional military police battalion was not as difficult a task as it may have been for other units.

        Stacked with civilian law enforcement personnel from various state and federal departments, the battalion was more than ready to accept its new role.

        “The mission pulls very heavily from our civilian skills,” said Tomka. “We have law enforcement people and we also have Marines who work for state and federal corrections. This isn’t your normal reserve unit; it’s a very experienced unit.” ...

        Another question is: Alleged to be "a very experienced unit", albeit not in a combat zone for the past 60 years, does such experience include some basic skills in the Arabic language so they will can properly master their Arabic speaking prisoners?


        **Terror War is how the US Wars Dept. headlines its latest Cheney arse kissing story.
        'Cheney Thanks Robins AFB Troops for Terror War Support Robins Air Force Base, Ga. 28Oct'05 ...

        Cheney thanked the troops for meeting their commitment to the nation during what he called "a very challenging hour in American history," helping support a long and difficult global conflict.

        "Our nation counts on our military to preserve our freedom and to defend our interests," Cheney said, noting that the troops reaffirm the country's confidence every day. "It is a war we are going to win," he said. '

        Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld war criminals are going to win the Terror War? The terrorUSts will defeat terrorists (anti-terrorUSts), fighting terror with terror?
        'These contributions are evident around the world, Cheney said, including Iraq, which he said terrorists regard as a central front in the terror war.

        "The only way the terrorists can win is if we lose our nerve and abandon our mission," the vice president said. '

        That's not the only way. Just as terrorUSts' destruction of Iraq created a new front for terrorists in US's Terror War, terrorUSts can do the same with Syria, Iran, North Korea, China, Russia... terrorUSts' inherently give rise to anti-terrorUSts, although the population of the former is static, if not declining, compared to the virtually infinite potential population of anti-terrorUSts created by the militarUSt justUS of terrorUSts.
        'Nothing can take away the sense of loss experienced by families of the fallen, Cheney said. "We can only say with complete certainty that these Americans served in a noble and a necessary cause, and their sacrifice has made our nation and the world more secure," he said.'

        Cheney's "We can only say with complete certainty..." has to be a word for word translation of some Himmleresque speeches of certitude that were the driving force behind so much of the fanaticism that wrecked the world not that long ago.
        Last edited by waioli kai; November 1, 2005, 02:30 AM.

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        • #19
          Re: The Iraq War - Chapter 4

          A disturbing report that was issued last week by the Center for American Progress, states that the DoD will be unable to continue to keep 140,000 troops in Iraq without seriously depleting the all-voluntary military and jeopardizing our national security.

          "..."It has become clear that if we still have 140,000 ground troops in Iraq a year from now, we will destroy the all-volunteer army," said the a report written by the center's Lawrence Korb and Brian Katulis. Korb served as assistant secretary of defense under President Ronald Reagan.

          The United States must reduce troop levels in Iraq, ideally with 80,000 leaving the country in 2006 and most of the rest leaving by the end of 2007, to avoid losing a broader "struggle against violent extremists" that goes beyond Iraq, the report says.

          A timetable for U.S. troop reductions would carry the additional benefit of putting pressure on Iraqi leaders to stabilize the country quickly, Korb said during a panel discussion at the center on Wednesday - an argument recently used by Democrats including Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware and Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan...."

          The only logical conclusions one can draw from these findings is 1) we need to start planning for the withdrawal within the next year of a significant number of troops currently stationed in Iraq or, as an alternative, reinstitute the draft. To stay the course and actually gain the upper hand against the insurgency in Iraq, politicians like John McCain contend we have to INCREASE the size of our deployment in Iraq to allow time for Iraqi security forces to get up to speed and keep the insurgency in check.

          Miulang
          "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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          • #20
            Bring them home

            Here is the complete text of the speech that Rep. John Murtha, a Vietnam Marine vet and Congressional warhawk, delivered this morning. He had tears in his eyes as he described what he has seen while visiting troops in Iraq. He knows the sacrifice the men and women who have served nobly does not justify the continued danger that we continue to put all these brave men and women into, nor does he believe that the 2,081 troops who gave their lives need to have any more names added to this sad list.

            How dare people like Cheney and the President declare that this Congressman, who saw battle himself, doesn't know of what he speaks. At least he was in a war zone...what could the occupants of the White House say about their war experiences? Did they have to endure the physical and emotional hardships of being sent to a far off land to get shot at and to shoot others? What could many of the current Senators and Congresspeople say about being on the firing line like Rep. Murtha? He is a brave, patriotic American who is not thinking of his own political future but instead admits now that the war has gone on too long and that a plan needs to be drawn up that will have many of our troops home before the end of next year.

            I believe the only reason Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush want to stay the course in Iraq is because they want to save face, nevermind that they are sacrificing lives for that cause.

            Miulang
            "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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            • #21
              Re: The Iraq War - Chapter 4

              This is just wonderful. Last year, during the battle of Fallujah, it was reported that the coalition forces were using new versions of napalm against the civilians in that town. At the time, the DoD vehemently denied that it was using white phosphorous as part of its arsenal.

              Now, there is official confirmation in the form of reports and video out of Italy and the DoD that "white pete" WAS used in Fallujah, only the DoD is saying it wasn't meant to be directed against the innocent civilians in that town.

              The question is: why was it used at all? After Vietnam, use of chemical agents like napalm against civilians was supposedly banned by the UN. And here we are, claiming that the "collateral damage" that was suffered in the form of people literally melting in their clothes was necessary to get rid of the terrorists who were supposedly hunkered down in Fallujah.

              How can we believe the DoD and the White House anymore? They say one thing and then when there is visual proof of their lies, then they admit that "oopsie, we maybe killed some innocent people". Why is winning at all costs the mantra of the White House?

              "...The US military on Wednesday acknowledged it might have killed civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja with white phosphorus munitions during the battle against insurgents a year ago.

              The Pentagon insisted civilians had not been targeted, however, and that it had avoided unnecessary casualties by evacuating the city before the offensive.

              White phosphorus, which is fired by artillery or mortars, can be used as an incendiary device or to create a smokescreen.

              While it is not classified as a chemical weapon, the chemical is covered by Protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Conventional Weapons, which prohibits the use of incendiary weapons against military forces located within concentrations of civilians – as was the case with the insurgents in Falluja. The US is party to the convention but, unlike a number of its allies, including the UK, it has not signed Protocol III.

              Last week, Italy’s Rai 24 news channel broadcast a documentary that alleged many civilians had been burned to death by the incendiary devices during the assault. It showed bodies burned to the bone inside clothes that remained intact...."

              And this from blogger Riverbend in Baghdad Burning:"...Image after image of men, women and children so burnt and scarred that the only way you could tell the males apart from the females, and the children apart from the adults, was by the clothes they are wearing… the clothes which were eerily intact- like each corpse had been burnt to the bone, and then dressed up lovingly in their everyday attire- the polka dot nightgown with a lace collar… the baby girl in her cotton pajamas- little earrings dangling from little ears.

              Some of them look like they died almost peacefully, in their sleep… others look like they suffered a great deal- skin burnt completely black and falling away from scorched bones.

              I imagine what it must have been like for some of them. They were probably huddled in their houses- some of them- tens of thousands of them- couldn’t leave the city. They didn’t have transport or they simply didn’t have a place to go. They sat in their homes, hoping that what people said about Americans was actually true- that in spite of their huge machines and endless weapons, they were human too.

              And then the rain of bombs would begin… the wooooosh of the missiles as they fell and the sound of the explosion as it hit its target… and no matter how prepared you think you are for that explosion- it always makes you flinch. I imagine their children covering their ears and some of them crying, trying to cover up the mechanical sounds of war with their more human wails. I imagine that as the tanks got closer, and the planes got lower- the fear increased- and parents searched each other’s faces for a solution, for a way out of the horror. Some of them probably decided to wait it out in their homes, and others must have been desperate to get out- fearing the rain of concrete and steel and thinking their chances were better in the open air, than confined in the homes that could at any moment turn into their tombs...."


              Miulang
              "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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              • #22
                "Sober judgement", "liberated" by terrorUSts

                .
                As he heads to Beijing, Bush says ‘sober judgment’ must prevail on war.

                "Sober judgement" ? Whatever Mr. Bush wants to call it, it is judgement: the plethora of USwars he's in charge of, simultaneous with his figureheading the immoral quest to free the capitalUS wealth class, the corporatUSts, from their burden to be taxed to feed the militarUSt machinery required to maintain when not otherwise advance corporatUSts' interests. To nourish said interest$ to the point of national bankrupcy of soul, merit and fiscal integrity ...held together with incantations, invocations, and representations of "God" .

                It was allegedly "sober judgements" of Cheneybush2 neo-conmen/conwomen that created US's anti-terrorUSt$ trap in Iraq (2003- present) out of a severely enfeebled and crippled anti-zionUSt Iraq.

                Within these militant corporatUSt$' "sober judgements" were prayers that they could fight their militant anti-terrorUSt opposition strictly within/over/upon Arab, Persian, Moslem societies and populations. Today's battleground Iraq, FOB Iraq, Camp Iraq, U.S. possesion Iraq, is terrorUSts' prayers come true. They got what they prayed for. While miscalculating their nations' tolerance for death and maimings of U.S. soldiers and marines in corporatUSts', militarUSts' US in Iraq war on militant anti-terrorUSism, terrorUSts did not miscalculate their nations' seemingly boundless tolerance for deaths, maimings, destruction, suffering borne by those being "liberated" by terrorUSts.

                The overriding mission of the U.S. Military is to dutifully obey their Commander in Chief, for better or for worse. The U.S. Military gets its orders exclusively from the Executive Branch. Not from the House, Senate or judicial branch. It is not up to active members of the U.S. Military to decide to act upon their Commander in Chief's orders once they themselves have determined whether their Commander's orders are constitutional, legal, ethical, moral or even achievable.

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                • #23
                  U.S. chemical warfare

                  .
                  "...And then the rain of bombs would begin… the wooooosh of the missiles as they fell and the sound of the explosion as it hit its target… and no matter how prepared you think you are for that explosion- it always makes you flinch. I imagine their children covering their ears and some of them crying, trying to cover up the mechanical sounds of war with their more human wails. I imagine that as the tanks got closer, and the planes got lower- the fear increased- and parents searched each other’s faces for a solution, for a way out of the horror. Some of them probably decided to wait it out in their homes, and others must have been desperate to get out- fearing the rain of concrete and steel and thinking their chances were better in the open air, than confined in the homes that could at any moment turn into their tombs...."

                  Flush 'em out from under the dwellings then hit them with white phosphorous, and claim it is not chemical warfare. Just like claiming that 'How the West was Won' was not state-tolerated, when not othwerwise state-sponsored, genocide; that how Hawaii ceased to be a sovereign nation was not a crime; that how the United States evolved into 50 states was/is not a blight on Humanity.
                  "At this place, liberty and life were stolen and sold. Human beings were delivered and sorted, and weighed, and branded with the marks of commercial enterprises, and loaded as cargo on a voyage without return. One of the largest migrations of history was also one of the greatest crimes of history." www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/

                  There is "U.S. warmongering officialdom", and, there is unofficial U.S. warmongering The Carlyle Group , immune to not just litigation but immune to public scrutiny as well.
                  Last edited by waioli kai; November 19, 2005, 09:30 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Re: The Iraq War - Chapter 4

                    This is so pitiful, yet hilarious! Check this link to see pics of Cindy Sheehan's book signing.

                    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=47599
                    Stop being lost in thought where our problems thrive.~

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                    • #25
                      Re: The Iraq War - Chapter 4

                      Our troops are now cremating dead guerillas and taunting bystanders over a PA system in Afghanistan. The DoD claims it was for "hygenic reasons" and will not court martial the guilty parties (only reprimand and discipline them). What's interesting is if in fact it was for "hygenic reasons", why did the Psyops officer taunt the locals as they watched the bodies burn? Again, it's a case of "do as I say, not as I do." It's no wonder the rest of the world looks upon us as godless infidels.

                      "...The U.S. military admitted on Saturday that its soldiers in Afghanistan had burned the bodies of two dead Taliban guerrillas and taunted insurgents about it, but had not meant it as a desecration.

                      The U.S. military said an investigation into the incident concluded the soldiers had burned the bodies for "hygienic reasons" and said it would reprimand two non-commissioned officers for calling out taunts about it over a loudspeaker.

                      "Our investigation found there was no intent to desecrate the remains, but only to dispose them for hygienic reasons," U.S.-led forces operational commander, Major General Jason Kamiya said.

                      The investigation stems from footage shown on Australian television in a report which says the pictures show U.S. soldiers watching as flames lick two charred corpses in the hills above the village of Gondaz north of Kandahar.

                      It also shows two U.S. soldiers reading messages they said had been broadcast over loudspeakers as propaganda.

                      "You allowed your fighters to be laid down facing west and burned. You are too scared to retrieve their bodies. This just proves you are the lady boys we always believed you to be," read one soldier identified as psyops specialist Sgt. Jim Baker.

                      The U.S. military said the soldiers implicated in the burning incident, would face disciplinary action and that the two junior officers who ordered the burning would be reprimanded for showing a lack of cultural and religious understanding.

                      The incident has caused anger among Afghans already upset with U.S.-led forces over accusations of mistreating militant prisoners and using heavy handed tactics to hunt down the Taliban and members of al Qaeda believed to be hiding there...."

                      Miulang

                      P.S. I believe the commander of the forces in Afghanistan is from Hawai'i.
                      "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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                      • #26
                        Re: The Iraq War - Chapter 4

                        Republicans are now beginning to talk about pulling out at least some of the troops, as early as 2006. It makes me happy because my idea of supporting the troops is having them in the loving arms of their moms and dads, husbands, wives, boy or girlfriends, sons, daughters...friends, at home here in America. And I do not believe they ever should have been used in Iraq in the first place. Afghanistan was obviously another story.

                        It also makes me kinda sad, and kinda mad, because nothing has changed except the poll numbers. A majority of the public now does not believe in the war. To me, if you believe in something, you go ahead and do it regardless of what anybody else thinks, so changing their opinion on the war merely because poll numbers have shifted tells me that the Republicans never had a deep moral conviction about the need for the war in the first place. Kind of like the Terri Schaivo case. Remember that one? That poor brain dead Florida woman; Republicans flew in from vacation, Bush even flew in from one of his many vacations to sign special legislation requiring Florida to keep that poor woman hooked up to feeding tubes. The very next day poll results showed 77 % of the public thought it was an unwise, unwarranted intrusion into a family's private tragedy, and the Republicans dropped their great moral principal stance. Like now, with Bush's War. If you do not deeply believe in something as serious as starting a war doesn't basic human morality require not starting one?

                        So I thank God the disaster may finally be winding down, I thank God it has taken "ONLY" 2,100 American deaths and what, 100,000 or so Iraqi deaths, not the 58,000 American deaths and what, 2,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodian deaths that the Vietnam War took to turn the public around.

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                        • #27
                          Re: The Iraq War - Chapter 4

                          Yeah, God's doing a great job.
                          “First we fought the preliminary round for the k***s and now we’re gonna fight the main event for the n*****s."
                          http://hollywoodbitchslap.com/review...=416&printer=1

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                          • #28
                            Re: The Iraq War - Chapter 4

                            Originally posted by Kalalau
                            the Republicans never had a deep moral conviction
                            Why is it that's the part of the quote that jumped out at me?

                            Okay, okay - to be perfectly fair, I know many Republicans who are exceptional human beings, worthy of respect. But not in the current Administration.

                            Unbelievable how that bunch of chicken-hawks, who worked overtime to keep their own @$$es away from combat duty (or even military service in general) have no problem sending other people's sons and daughters off to be killed, as well as having the audacity to question the patriotism of veterans who disagree with them.

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                            • #29
                              Are they really coming home soon?

                              I still contend that the National Guard should never have been deployed to Iraq in the first place because they were needed at home to help in disaster recovery operations, but now there are reports that the DoD may be planning to bring about 75% of those troops home in 2006.

                              That would not only be a relief to the families of these civilian soldiers, but a relief to the companies that had to suffer the loss of productivity by their absence.

                              Welcome home, men and women of the National Guard! You served nobly and honorably in a fabricated war.

                              "...THE US National Guard is planning to cut the number of its troops in Iraq by 75 per cent over the next year in a dramatic change of approach by the American military, The Times has learnt.

                              The substantial reduction in part-time troops — from eight combat brigades to two — follows growing evidence that the National Guard’s supply of equipment is becoming exhausted, leaving it unable to cope with domestic emergencies, such as Hurricane Katrina. ..."

                              Miulang

                              P.S. One other good reason for the downsizing is most of the National Guard troops have seen Iraq at least twice already in 2 1/2 years, and their contracts say they can only serve on active duty for 2 years. So I guess if the Prez insists on staying the course with the same number of troops that are in Iraq now, that would probably mean reinstating the draft to fill the ranks of active duty troops.
                              Last edited by Miulang; December 1, 2005, 07:01 PM.
                              "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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                              • #30
                                Re: The Iraq War - Chapter 4

                                Check out this site for more atrocities in Iraqi. If anyone saw the Round Table Discussion from Baghdad on Night Line last night the general consensus was that they were better off under Sadam. At least they had their country in tact now they are a battle ground for terrorist from all over the Islamic world. Not to mention the terrorist from the good old US. It will take many generations to curb the generational hatred that has manifested from this attack on a country that had nothing to do with 9-11 – that is the real danger.


                                http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0401-14.htm
                                "When you dance there are two of you, your spiritual self and your physical self. The spirit has to dance." ~ Aunty Mae Ulalia Loebenstein

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