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  • #16
    Re: shooting down satellites

    Because in proving our might, Russia will start to develop it's own defensive system and at that point here we go again with another arms race and another cold war.

    We should have just shot it down quietly and then blame Iran for shooting down a US Dish Network satellite (hey DN has one broken satellite floating above our Southern skies right now). Then we could tell the world that all of Saddam's WMD were moved to Iran and was used to knock down HBO to punish the evil Satanic western empires. I Want my MTV!!!
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    • #17
      Re: shooting down satellites

      Here's some interesting speculation from another discussion board:

      http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Feb-2008/0337.html

      A notice to aviators has declared a hazard in an area where the satellite will be pretty much overhead 5:30 PM HST Thursday 21 Feb. Of course this could just be practice or some other range operations but the track plots pretty nicely:

      http://satobs.org/seesat_ref/06057A/...unverified.pdf

      and other track info is here:
      http://www.heavens-above.com/orbitdi...d&alt=0&tz=CET

      Now all we have to figure out is whether LAKE ERIE is already underway and if the missile contrail can be seen from H-1 Ewa-bound during rush hour... assuming they shoot from the PMRF oparea off Barking Sands.
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      • #18
        Re: shooting down satellites

        Originally posted by Nords View Post
        Now all we have to figure out is whether LAKE ERIE is already underway and if the missile contrail can be seen from H-1 Ewa-bound during rush hour... assuming they shoot from the PMRF oparea off Barking Sands.
        According to the PDF you found the time is Feb 21, 2008 between 2:30 - 5:00 UTC which in Hawaii is -10 hours of UTC. So that would be on Feb 20, 2008 between 4:30pm - 7pm (HST).

        It would seem from the notice that they would launch from around the PMRF area.

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        • #19
          Re: shooting down satellites

          So then...
          If I understand correctly,
          "They plan on shooting at it while it's somewhat near/above Hawaii?!!!"

          YIKES! Don't mess up guys.
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          • #20
            Re: shooting down satellites

            Originally posted by helen View Post
            According to the PDF you found the time is Feb 21, 2008 between 2:30 - 5:00 UTC which in Hawaii is -10 hours of UTC. So that would be on Feb 20, 2008 between 4:30pm - 7pm (HST).
            It would seem from the notice that they would launch from around the PMRF area.
            Wednesday, you're absolutely right.
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            • #21
              Re: shooting down satellites

              This is a message to China pure and simple. Some months ago the Chinese announced an ASAT capability. This is just the US answering.
              "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
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              • #22
                Re: shooting down satellites

                Originally posted by craigwatanabe View Post
                Because in proving our might, Russia will start to develop it's own defensive system and at that point here we go again with another arms race and another cold war.

                We should have just shot it down quietly and then blame Iran for shooting down a US Dish Network satellite (hey DN has one broken satellite floating above our Southern skies right now). Then we could tell the world that all of Saddam's WMD were moved to Iran and was used to knock down HBO to punish the evil Satanic western empires. I Want my MTV!!!
                Actually, Russia back when it was the USSR actually had deployed a working in-orbit ASAT system back in 1972 - getting there first with the tech - so this isn't a huge escalation - more like a quiet demo on a global scale along the lines of 'we've gone so far from the testing stage that we're willing to show the world that knocking down a sat is no big deal for us.'
                "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
                Socrates.

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                • #23
                  Re: shooting down satellites

                  So with the possibility of an African American out of Hawaii with a Muslim monicker being elected President of the U.S. of A., or the possibility of a White American female being elected the President of the U.S. of A., is it possible the world will end tomorrow once they count the ballots in Hawaii from the Democratic caucus...and decide it's a good day to shoot down a satelite that's packing hydrazine?
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                  • #24
                    Re: shooting down satellites

                    if that satellite is headed for Chicago or Dubai, then yeee-eh-heya.

                    Shewt it!

                    pax

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                    • #25
                      Re: shooting down satellites

                      Originally posted by lavagal View Post
                      So with the possibility of an African American out of Hawaii with a Muslim monicker being elected President of the U.S. of A., or the possibility of a White American female being elected the President of the U.S. of A., is it possible the world will end tomorrow once they count the ballots in Hawaii from the Democratic caucus...and decide it's a good day to shoot down a satelite that's packing hydrazine?

                      That was really funny! Thanks.
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                      • #26
                        Re: shooting down satellites

                        Originally posted by lavagal View Post
                        So with the possibility of an African American out of Hawaii with a Muslim monicker being elected President of the U.S. of A., or the possibility of a White American female being elected the President of the U.S. of A., is it possible the world will end tomorrow once they count the ballots in Hawaii from the Democratic caucus...and decide it's a good day to shoot down a satelite that's packing hydrazine?
                        LMAO

                        That was good!
                        "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
                        Socrates.

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                        • #27
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                          Glad you folks appreciate my high-brow, sophisticated sense of humor. I just hope those sailors are great marksmen!!!
                          Aloha from Lavagal

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                          • #28
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                            I think you guys read the announcement wrong - it's not the hydrazine itself that's the hazard, it's the large mass of the hydrazine tank [which may reach the earth's surface] that can pose the risk (as well as the combustion possibility).
                            May I always be found beneath your contempt.

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                            • #29
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                              …especially if that large mass hits rush hour traffic in a city with two million citizens…

                              pax

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by lavagal View Post
                                So with the possibility of an African American out of Hawaii with a Muslim monicker being elected President of the U.S. of A., or the possibility of a White American female being elected the President of the U.S. of A., is it possible the world will end tomorrow once they count the ballots in Hawaii from the Democratic caucus...and decide it's a good day to shoot down a satelite that's packing hydrazine?
                                Not to hijack and dissect your humorous commentary...

                                Which part of Barack's name is Muslim? I thought both of his names (first and last) are rooted in Africa.
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