Scrapping the Internet

[Miulang]

Some technology experts believe that the current Internet infrastructure can never be made secure or stable because of the way it evolved. The solution? scrap the current Internet infrastructure and build a new one!

Miulang

[adrian]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

bring out internet2 already!

[mel]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

Go back to old fashioned dial-up BBS's....

[Leo Lakio]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

...pen and paper, I say! And "books," anybody remember those?

[i-hungry]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

Scrapping the current Internet? Sounds more like improving a few parts of it. How can they make the rest of the world do the same?

[tutusue]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

Oh man, 400 sq. ft. is just too small to share space with encyclopedias, dictionaries, file cabinets, cookbooks, hard copy newspapers, catalogues and...people!

[DaFerret]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

bring out internet2 already!

Don't you mean Internt 2.0? XD

[Menehune Man]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

Better bring out the BETA version of INTNT2.0 before scrapping anything!
You're scaring me... I feel withdrawals already!!!

[WindwardOahuRN]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

Better bring out the BETA version of INTNT2.0 before scrapping anything!
You're scaring me... I feel withdrawals already!!!

My computer crashed on Saturday morning. Just got it back a little while ago, with some major glitches intact. It'll take a while to get him back in shape....::at pat pat:::

I missed the sorry bugger.

With all his faults I still love him.

I have to admit he looks a helluva lot better under the influence of adult beverages, though.

I think we need counseling.

[Hellbent]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

I call BS
If they rebuilt the internet and controlled the nodes, they could apply fees like tolls to us users. I think theyre trying to make money off the internet and this is how.
At its current state (for those of you who dont know how the intarweb works) its a sprawling web of computers interconnected and when you try to go to a website, it tries to go from your pc to the destination via the shortest route, after navigating thru your ISP's internal structure.
For example, if you try to access www.hawaiithreads.com, there might be 5 'hops'
EG:
Your PC>RR Mililani>RR Texas>some router node>Comcast node>lava net host
I'm not at home so I cant post the exact hops, but you get the idea. Now if they rebuilt it to be more 'secure' then why couldnt they toll you (micropayment) or no access without prepaid 'pass'?

[Cameron]

Re: Scrapping the Internet

Your PC>RR Mililani>RR Texas>some router node>Comcast node>lava net host
I'm not at home so I cant post the exact hops, but you get the idea.

These are the exact hops, for those of you that are interested. From byuh at least. 20 Hops!

kazaru@kazaru-laptop:~$ traceroute hawaiithreads.com
traceroute to hawaiithreads.com (66.33.196.175), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  ip-10-11-246-6.byuh.edu (10.11.246.6)  1.309 ms  1.360 ms  1.376 ms
 2  10.11.224.17 (10.11.224.17)  1.198 ms  1.282 ms  1.258 ms
 3  10.0.224.30 (10.0.224.30)  1.469 ms  1.543 ms  1.367 ms
 4  ip-216-228-251-225.byuh.edu (216.228.251.225)  1.960 ms  2.851 ms  1.758 ms
 5  ip-216-228-251-219.byuh.edu (216.228.251.219)  22.403 ms  2.468 ms  2.493 ms
 6  ip-216-228-251-218.byuh.edu (216.228.251.218)  2.293 ms  1.889 ms  1.999 ms
 7  66-162-246-153.static.twtelecom.net (66.162.246.153)  9.735 ms  3.920 ms  4.131 ms
 8  core-01-ge-3-1-0-510.hnll.twtelecom.net (216.136.8.76)  24.264 ms  3.680 ms  3.359 ms
 9  66.192.250.6 (66.192.250.6)  56.335 ms  57.571 ms  59.828 ms
10  peer-02-so-0-0-0-0.palo.twtelecom.net (64.129.248.19)  55.529 ms  55.535 ms  55.311 ms
11  paix-0.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (198.32.175.14)  67.040 ms  63.608 ms  64.462 ms
12  xe-0-2-0.r20.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.230)  77.371 ms  68.004 ms  60.193 ms
13  ae-1.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.119)  68.409 ms  59.881 ms  68.601 ms
14  as-0.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.97)  66.187 ms  67.526 ms  64.405 ms
15  xe-2-1.r01.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.234)  72.442 ms  73.914 ms  65.806 ms
16  xe-1-2.r00.lsanca17.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.129)  73.477 ms  67.015 ms  64.575 ms
17  xe-1-3.r00.lsanca17.us.ce.gin.ntt.net (206.183.201.162)  64.709 ms  64.701 ms  64.182 ms
18  border1.po2-bbnet2.ext1a.lax.pnap.net (216.52.255.95)  67.065 ms  68.830 ms  72.801 ms
19  newdream-1.border1.ext1a.lax.pnap.net (216.52.220.78)  65.546 ms  76.909 ms  86.565 ms
20  basic-cid.zebes.dreamhost.com (66.33.196.175)  67.857 ms  69.113 ms  65.289 ms