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Re: Evan Dobelle: Fair "firing" ?
I never meant to imply that it was a "victory" for Dobelle. He can still probably find a decent paying tenured professor job anywhere in the country if he wanted one. Yes, he had to relinquish all the power, but that's what happens when someone takes what's given to him and exploits it for all its worth until someone catches him with his hand in the cookie jar (you know: "power corrupts"). Happens all the time, and not just in Hawaii. He will stand a much better chance of getting another job than someone who is a convicted felon who's served his sentence in jail.
Miulang
Originally posted by LikaNui
Miulang wrote: >> If the intent is to "punish" Dobelle, then nah, Dobelle doesn't really lose much either way. <<
Here is what I wrote a while back, on page 3 of this thread:
Dobelle was forced to resign from his prestigious, highly visible and highly paid job after only 3 years of a 7-year contract. (The alternative was for the firing to stand; there was absolutely no discussion of him keeping the president's job.)
Dobelle was forced to accept less than half of the severance package ($1.05 million instead of $2.26 million).
Dobelle was forced to accept a 75% pay cut.
Dobelle was forced to give up $1.51 million of salary. (For the 4 years remaining on his contract he would've earned $1.76 million; instead, he'll get $250,000 total for 2 years as a researcher.)
Dobelle was forced to lose $496,000 in extra incentive pay.
Dobelle (or his estate) was forced to have to repay $400,000 to the university for his life insurance policy.
Dobelle was forced to lose tenure. (His 2-year research position is non-tenured.)
Dobelle was forced to give up the right to the title "President Emeritus".
Dobelle was forced to waive his right to privacy for all information regarding the dispute (except for confidential attorney documents). (Remember, it was Dobelle and not the regents who demanded that the last three meetings be closed to the public.)
So, considering all that, how can one possibly claim it as a Dobelle "victory"? And if that's a victory, what the heck would comprise a loss?!?
As for Dobelle's future, what other university will hire him now, given his track record here and before here? He's taken a major career hit. This cannot be considered a "victory" either.
So, do you still think "Dobelle doesn't really lose much"?
>> Dobelle is looking out for Dobelle, and the BOR obviously thinks full disclosure of its proceedings will result in embarrassment for some of its members. <<
Yes, there is "embarassment" for certain members of the BOR -- once the truth came out and the facts were published, we discovered that it was the Cayetano-appointed regents who wanted Dobelle fired over a year ago and that it was the Lingle appointees who talked them into giving Dobelle a chance! That took the wind straight out of the sails of those who claimed the firing was political.
Here is what I wrote a while back, on page 3 of this thread:
Dobelle was forced to resign from his prestigious, highly visible and highly paid job after only 3 years of a 7-year contract. (The alternative was for the firing to stand; there was absolutely no discussion of him keeping the president's job.)
Dobelle was forced to accept less than half of the severance package ($1.05 million instead of $2.26 million).
Dobelle was forced to accept a 75% pay cut.
Dobelle was forced to give up $1.51 million of salary. (For the 4 years remaining on his contract he would've earned $1.76 million; instead, he'll get $250,000 total for 2 years as a researcher.)
Dobelle was forced to lose $496,000 in extra incentive pay.
Dobelle (or his estate) was forced to have to repay $400,000 to the university for his life insurance policy.
Dobelle was forced to lose tenure. (His 2-year research position is non-tenured.)
Dobelle was forced to give up the right to the title "President Emeritus".
Dobelle was forced to waive his right to privacy for all information regarding the dispute (except for confidential attorney documents). (Remember, it was Dobelle and not the regents who demanded that the last three meetings be closed to the public.)
So, considering all that, how can one possibly claim it as a Dobelle "victory"? And if that's a victory, what the heck would comprise a loss?!?
As for Dobelle's future, what other university will hire him now, given his track record here and before here? He's taken a major career hit. This cannot be considered a "victory" either.
So, do you still think "Dobelle doesn't really lose much"?
>> Dobelle is looking out for Dobelle, and the BOR obviously thinks full disclosure of its proceedings will result in embarrassment for some of its members. <<
Yes, there is "embarassment" for certain members of the BOR -- once the truth came out and the facts were published, we discovered that it was the Cayetano-appointed regents who wanted Dobelle fired over a year ago and that it was the Lingle appointees who talked them into giving Dobelle a chance! That took the wind straight out of the sails of those who claimed the firing was political.
Miulang
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