U.S. cursed by US Right Wing

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HistoryUS Right-Wing, U.S. curse

'What's your take on the Japanese, circa 1941?'

In East Asia and the Pacific many generations of European imperialism were being added to by the world's newest imperialist designers (Hearst, Pulitzer and other corporatist designers, technicians of the evolving, militarist, corporate state barely a century old; barely emerging from a criminally bloody and destructive civil war; finishing up it continental cleansing, relocation of surviving Native Americans, far still from being the inclusively democratic republic its leaders allege) beginning with the United States' so-called "Spanish-American War", "liberation" of Philippines and its subsequent genocidally persued occupation of the Philippines and surrounding waters.

Meanwhile the British Empire is a mighty tumor in China and it owns India. No wonder Japanese were led to believe: "We're next!! "

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Japan 1880's to 1941, "We're next!!" : to be slaughtered, intimidated, occupied, humiliated in our own land, rendered a commodity for use by a greater power, or, "We're next!!" to seize, possess, rule and plunder the less deserving, inferior others, accountable to no international convenants or conventions of humanity, just like Euro-american imperialists.

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Philippine-American War

Philippine-American War 1899–1913: "This conflict is also known as the Philippine Insurrection. This name was historically the most commonly used in the U.S., but Filipinos and an increasing number of American historians refer to these hostilities as the Philippine-American War, and in 1999** the U.S. Library of Congress reclassified its references to use this term.

Hostilities started on February 4, 1899 when a (drunk?) American soldier*** shot a Filipino soldier who was crossing a bridge into American-occupied territory in San Juan del Monte, an incident historians now consider to be the start of the war. U.S. President William McKinley later told reporters "that the insurgents had attacked Manila" in justifying war on the Philippines.

***Note: Recent evidence from the National Historical institute of the Philippines say that the Filipino soldier shot by the (said drunk) American soldiers is not in San Juan del Monte, but in present-day Sociego Street in Manila. The National Historical Institute put a marker there.

The administration of US President McKinley declared Aguinaldo (On January 1, 1899, Emilio Aguinaldo was declared the first President. He later organized a Congress at Malolos, Bulacan to draft a constitution to be an "outlaw bandit", and no formal declaration of war was ever issued. Two reasons have been given for this. One is that calling the war the Philippine Insurrection made it appear to be a rebellion against a lawful government, although the only part of the Philippines under American control was Manila. The other was to enable the American government to avoid liability to claims by veterans of the action. ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine-American_War

** 1999, to coincide with the first centennial commemoration of U.S. "Operation Filipino Freedom"

US combatant strength, 126,000

Philippine combatant strength, unknown

US soldiers killed: 4,324 -- US soldiers wounded, 2,818

Philippine soldiers killed: 16,000 actually counted, estimates soldiers killed: around 20,000

Philippine soldiers wounded: unknown

US civilians killed: (?) ;; Philippine civilians killed: 250,000 to 1,000,000

[most stats from wikipedia.org]

Estimate US cost$ (?); estimate damage Philippine quality of life, infrastructure, culture (unknown) [/CENTER]

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US's "Mexican War"

This month some statistics of US Coalition's War in Iraq have striking similarities to The Mexican-American War of the 1840's.

As of 1March 2005 (icasualties.org/oif/) 1672 deaths US Coalition in Iraq vs. 1733 US Killed-in Action in Mex-Am War ( www.wordiq.com/definition/Mexican-American_War )

Mex-Am War combatant strength: US 78,718 ; Mexico 40,000 [Mexico combatant casualties ~6000 (word.iq.com); ~25,000 (wikipedia.org)]

10,740 US Coalition in Iraq wounded-in-action vs. 11,550 Mex-Am War US forces dead (not KIA), and 4,152 wounded US forces

Iraq civilians reported dead: min. 16,123 ; 18,395 max (1Mar2005) www.iraqbodycount.net/

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"Mexico severed relations with the United States in March 1845, shortly after the U.S. annexation of Texas. In September President James K. Polk sent John Slidell on a secret mission to Mexico City to negotiate the disputed Texas border, settle U.S. claims against Mexico, and purchase New Mexico and California for up to $30,000,000. Mexican officials, aware in advance of Slidell's intention of dismembering their country , refused to receive him. When Polk learned of the snub, he ordered troops under General Zachary Taylor to occupy the disputed area between the Nueces and the Rio Grande (January 1846).
On May 9, 1846, Polk began to prepare a war message to Congress, justifying hostilities on the grounds of Mexican refusal to pay American claims and its refusal to negotiate with Slidell. That evening he received word that Mexican troops had crossed the Rio Grande on April 25 and attacked Taylor's troops, killing or injuring 16 of them. In his quickly revised war message—delivered to Congress on May 11—Polk claimed that Mexico had “invaded our territory and shed American blood on American soil.”

Congress overwhelmingly approved a declaration of war on May 13... "

ttp://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9052384

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The Mexican-American War was a war fought between the United States and Mexico between 1846 and 1848. It is also called the US-Mexico War . In the US it is also known as the Mexican War ; in Mexico it is also known as the North American Invasion of Mexico , the United States War Against Mexico , and the War of Northern Aggression (this last name is more commonly used in the Southern United States to refer to the American Civil War).
The war is often considered an example of the US government's then-ongoing expansionist policies in North America, as defined by the doctrine of Manifest Destiny.

Henry David Thoreau wrote his essay Civil Disobedience and refused to pay taxes because of this war.

Ulysses S. Grant declared the Mexican-American war to be "one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation" and one of the causes of the American Civil War.

General Porfirio Diaz, president of Mexico from 1877–1911) would later lament: " ?Pobre Mexico! Tan lejos de Dios, y tan cerca de los Estados Unidos. " ( "Poor Mexico! So far from God, and so close to the United States.")

www.wordiq.com/definition/Mexican-American_War

www.pbs.org/kera/usmexicanwar/\
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Re: Fascism Anyone?

Fascism Anyone?

ttp://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

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Canada to Condi ? come in

Open Letter to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Axworthy fires back at U.S. -- and Canadian -- critics of our (ie, Canada's) BMD (Ballistic Missile Defense) decision in

Your boss did not avail himself of a similar opportunity to visit our House of Commons during his visit, fearing, it seems, that there might be some signs of dissent. He preferred to issue his diktat on missile defence in front of a highly controlled, pre-selected audience.

Such control-freak antics may work in the virtual one-party state that now prevails in Washington. But in Canada we have a residual belief that politicians should be subject to a few checks and balances, an idea that your country once espoused before the days of empire.

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Now, I understand that there may have been some miscalculations in Washington based on faulty advice from your resident governor of the "northern territories," Ambassador Cellucci. But you should know by now that he hasn't really won the hearts and minds of most Canadians through his attempts to browbeat and command our allegiance to U.S. policies.

Sadly, Mr. Cellucci has been far too closeted with exclusive groups of 'experts' from Calgary think-tanks and neo-con lobbyists at cross-border conferences to remotely grasp a cross-section of Canadian attitudes (nor American ones, for that matter).
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You would find that what is rising in Canada is not so much anti-Americanism, as claimed by your and our right-wing commentators, but fundamental disagreements with certain policies of your government. You would see that rather than just reacting to events by drawing on old conventional wisdoms, many Canadians are trying to think our way through to some ideas that can be helpful in building a more secure world.

These Canadians believe that security can be achieved through well-modulated efforts to protect the rights of people, not just nation-states.

To encourage and advance international co-operation on managing the risk of climate change, they believe that we need agreements like Kyoto.

To protect people against international crimes like genocide and ethnic cleansing, they support new institutions like the International Criminal Court -- which, by the way, you might strongly consider using to hold accountable those committing atrocities today in Darfur, Sudan.

And these Canadians believe that the United Nations should indeed be reformed -- beginning with an agreement to get rid of the veto held by the major powers over humanitarian interventions to stop violence and predatory practices.

On this score, you might want to explore the concept of the 'Responsibility to Protect' while you're in Ottawa. It's a Canadian idea born out of the recent experience of Kosovo and informed by the many horrific examples of inhumanity over the last half-century. Many Canadians feel it has a lot more relevance to providing real human security in the world than missile defence ever will.
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As I discovered recently while giving a series of lectures in southern California, there is keen interest in how the U.S. can offer real leadership in managing global challenges of disease, natural calamities and conflict, other than by military means. There is also a very strong awareness on both sides of the border of how vital Canada is to the U.S. as a partner in North America. We supply copious amounts of oil and natural gas to your country, our respective trade is the world's largest in volume, and we are increasingly bound together by common concerns over depletion of resources, especially very scarce fresh water.
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In friendship,
Lloyd Axworthy

Lloyd Axworthy is president of the University of Winnipeg and a former Canadian foreign minister.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/wes...-3026695c.html

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? corporatUSt, militarUSt Fascism

? corporatUSt, militarUSt Fascism

US SOS Condoleeza Rice says to the world, via pbs News Hour, " The Lebanese people are saying... "

Really Condi ? Are they really ? Can't you wait for some kind of democratic process of an electoral nature let the Lebanese electorate speak for itself, without your bless ed insight full of corporatUSt, militarUSt Fascism ?

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Democracy Training, SoS

More Condidoms from the News Hour interview:
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"The idea behind This Future... help from US for democracy training..."

Democracy Training. Now we know what to call that which is happening in Iraq, threatened upon the Middle East, indeed upon the world, if the President and Vice-President are to be believed: starting with peoples whose misfortune it is to be between corporatUSt lust$ and that for which corporatUSts lu$t.
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"...triumph of human will to live in freedom..."

'Triumph of human will to live in freedom, once the lessons of shock and awe training are deemed by US to be sufficiently appreciated to warrant coalition with US ' militarUSt.
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"... . How to support the European 3, ..."

Okay, US has Six in Asia who talk to North Korea for US, Three in Euroasia who talk to Iran for US. Is there at least one who can talk to US for Americans? <a href=http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?postid=21227#post21227>Canada could, but would Condi listen ? </b>

Interview With Jim Lehrer of The NewsHour
Secretary Condoleezza Rice
Washington, DC
March 4, 2005
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Valentines 2005, US Korea

Valentines 2005

U.S.- Korea Relations (Feb 14):

SoS Rice (11:00am EST): Well, we've had a very good relationship in the past... but a very strong alliance and friendship...

FM Ban: ...I'm really looking forward to your great leadership...

SoS Rice: And I very much welcome you here... ...But as we were just saying, it's a very, very strong friendship...And again, welcome.

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SoS Rice (11:00am EST) : Well, ... a lot of issues ...

FM Ban: "...I'm really looking forward to your great leadership..."

SoS Rice: "...of the many issues before us...have many mutual interests... on the many challenges... And again, welcome.

QUESTION: Do you have any reaction to Hariri's death ?

QUESTION: Can we have a handshake ?

SoS RICE: That we can do.

QUESTION: Madame Secretary, do you have any reaction to Prime Minister -- former Prime Minister Hariri's death ?

SoS RICE: We'll get you a reaction on that in a little bit. I'll
get back to you shortly.

www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2005/42235.htm

,, ? ,, "US - Korea Relations" is what kind of relations with a DMZ cutting Korea in half? What did Madame Secretary say: "Well, we've had a very good relationship in the past..."

'''from
Remarks With South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-Moon Before Their Meeting
Secretary Condoleezza Rice
The Secretary of State's Outer Office
Washington, DC
February 14, 2005

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anti-US combatants, Mex-Am War.

Mexican-American War combatant strength:
.. . . US 78,718 [17,035 casualties, combat and non-combat included]
Mexico 40,000 [Mexico combatant casualties ~6000 (word.iq.com); ~25,000 (wikipedia.org)]

US combatant strength in Iraq today is about twice what it was in the Mexican-American War, while "insurgent" combatant strength in Iraq is estimated by some (rarely publicly by the US Defense Dept)
in 20.000 to 40,000 range, about the same as anti-US combatants in the Mexican-American War.

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Korea to Condi ? come in...

On the State Department's "Speeches and Remarks" web page "What the Secretary Has Been Saying" there is a photo link captioned boldly
" U.S-Korea Relations (Feb.14) "
. The Secretary could elaborate on the nuance in her posted remarks... " ... a very, very strong friendship and alliance with the Republic of Korea..."

" US-Korea Relations " is what kind of relations with a DMZ cutting Korea in half? What did Madame Secretary say?"

What she says is not literally what she believes. She may say "Republic of Korea", South Korea --what she believes (like the Department's caption to the photo link above mentioned "U.S.-Korea Relations)
is that the US Korean Civil War's "victor" has yet to divide the spoils of its northern Korean province. What she believes is that there is Korea, and the real Koreans are of vested South Korean corporatUSt persuasion. Just as she believes that there is Cuba and the real Cubans thrive in eastern United States. Just as she believed real Iraqis would be cheering for militarUSt intervention against the Saddam Hussein regime. Just as she believes that mass demonstrations in defiance of Arab regimes are legitimate, demonstrably indicative expressions of the will of the majority
(such beliefs she let fly through the past week's "anti-Syrian demonstrations" ** in Beirut); she believes, however, that mass demonstrations in defiance of corporatUSt American regimes could never,
without further qualification, be indicative of the will of the majority.
In the latter case, at the least, she would require safe, secure elections to demonstrate the will of the people; in the former case, Madame Secretary has not the patience to want for elections in Lebanon.

The (ostrich head-in-a -hole) notion that the security of the United States resides greatly (reflected in $$ outlays for such) in corporatUSt$' national ballistic missile shoot down capabilities, systems and support structures, is a favorite notion in ex-National Security Advisor, now Secretary of State Rice's ideological agenda of the coporatUSt, militarUSt republic of US, the fascist faction of the United States, the U.S. .

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re: facades of moral conduct

I think this guy was standing too close to the Microwave oven and fried his WalMart brain implant cuz something's hijacked that noggin of his.

Maybe it's the side effects of Verizon, Nextel, ATT microwave towers in the FCC allowed moved into our neighborhood.
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What I gather is that we in America live in this facade of moral conduct yet our international actions prove otherwise.

No argument there.
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We have the strictest environmental laws in the world regarding clear cutting of our rain forests, automobile emissions, manufacturing plant emissions as well.

Can you cite a source, afford a link to back up that claim?
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Countries in Africa aren't immune to humanity either with their human rights violations and genocide.

"Countries in Africa aren't immune to humanity..." ?? Lost me.
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Middle East countries we fight for and against have one major export...oil. So does that make the muslim world any less corrupt than the west?

I fail to make the connections you're making.
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It seems the world hates us not for our economic status, but our ties with Isreal.

Could it be that the world is fed up with the ignorance, self-deception and belligerence of the U.S. ?
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As for our redeemers of US certificates...it's not only our children, we are the beneficeries of our promissory backing of the almighty U.S. Dollar already!

Not sure what you mean exactly, but here's a thought along that line: With all the concern being expressed about baby-boomers drawing down on the Social Security Trust Fund, possibly driving the Fund to insolvency in the next half of the 21st Century . why is there not a similar cry of alarm for what is going to happen to Wall Street as baby-boomers start to cash out of their IRA's, 401K's, pensions funds and so worth?
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But the strength of our economy proves we will not go bancrupt that easily and that our economic engine will fuel our military might where ever democracy deems fit.

?? "...wherever democracy deems fit." ?? What democracy? Whose idea of democracy? Economic engine? Are you are that many are saying that the U.S. is now in the Information Era, having been deemed to have grown out of, or pushed out of, or seduced out of the Industrial Age. So if industry is not the engine of the U.S. economy, what is? Information?
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As your name implies, it sounds like you are one of the 130+ Hawaiian groups seeking power over the Hawaiian Kingdom illegally overthrown by our own U.S. government. If that's your facade then you have a legitimate gripe over the values of the U.S. Government, but before you continue to denounce this government, denounce your subsidy checks from the hand that feed you and your family first.

Who is subsidizing whom? Just get your governments to pay one, just one, long overdue bill, payable to Hawaiians: the revenue agreements made by U.S. and Sate governments with Hawaiian affairs concerning Honolulu International Airport.
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One thing I cannot stand is a bitter indigenent ([?]) who just complains about their "Poor me" situation and does nothing about it yet has the time to denigrate the government that has paid for their health and car insurance as well as the milk, eggs, cheese, and other food subsidy that the U.S. supplies free for the taking for those who strive to undermine it. You hate the successful Hawaiian because they succumbed to the western evils.

You're point of view is drowning in your assumptions, and you're revealing your racist underpinnings as you go belly up.
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One thing I cannot stand is a bitter indigenent who just complains about their "Poor me" situation and does nothing about it yet has the time to denegrade the government that has paid for their health and car insurance as well as the milk, eggs, cheese, and other food subsidy that the U.S. supplies free for the taking for those who strive to undermine it. You hate the successful Hawaiian because they succumbed to the western evils.

You're point of view is drowning in your assumptions, and you're revealing your racist underpinnings as you go belly up.
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Hiding behind an alias doesn't give you any credibility. It just says you have a lot of words to say without backing it up with who you are. In other words you're simply blowing empty words and your time is worthless on this board.

What does using an alias have to do with anything when it comes to seeking truth, honest discourse and reasoned criticism?

[pzarquon]

Re: U.S. cursed by US Right Wing

I would respectfully submit that you're probably posting a bit too much too fast, if you're finally responding to Craig's post now. He posted that message on November 10, 2004!

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Re: cw's post

I would respectfully submit that you're probably posting a bit too much too fast, if you're finally responding to Craig's post now. He posted that message on November 10, 2004!

Navigating this forum had for awhile not been one of my better abilities. cw's posts rarely are political directed...i think he happened into topic he had /has passions about but not in terms of attentive interests and fascination with, not a primary interest or talent for.

Am not sure that the speed of getting posts up has much to do with it. And. as for amount of posts per day, others are far more prolific than me. Oh well most of just do the best we can, and sometimes, as often as not, spend more, otherwise family, time and concentrated effort on products which did not warrant such attention.

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The Pope and hypocrUSy

SoS Dr. Rice, on 1st day at State Dept: "This is a great time for America. It's a great time for the international system."

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John Paul II and hypocrUSy

President Bush and other world leaders are honoring John Paul II in a way that completely misunderstands his message. We pay him no tribute if we lower our flags to half-staff and send a grand presidential delegation to his funeral, when at the same time we avert our eyes as villagers are slaughtered and mutilated in the genocide unfolding in Darfur.

The message of the pope's ministry was about standing up to evil, not about holding grand funerals.

" Throughout the West, John Paul's witness reminded us of our obligation to build a culture of life in which the strong protect the weak," Mr. Bush said. Well, what about that reminder ? What kind of a "culture of life" is it that allows us to shrug as Sudanese soldiers heave children onto bonfires? ....

If there is a lesson from the papacy of John Paul II, it is the power of moral force. The pope didn't command troops, but he deployed principles. And it's hypocritical of us to pretend to honor him by lowering our flags while simultaneously displaying an amoral indifference to genocide. (by Nicholas D. Kristof Published: April 6, 2005 www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/opinion/06kristof.html?hp )

If nothing else, the Bush Administration can duly claim to be the leaders of the amoral majority of US, the amoral majority of the West.

Bush1 was content to let the Balkans go to hell. His son, Bush2 is obviously just as pleased to have his legacy be comprised of a boundless tolerance for atrocity in Sudan. He and shameless crew of sycophants and Cheney prototypes may enjoy their heaven on Earth, but should they ever meet their Judeo-Christian god in afterlife it could only be in the course of their being ushered to an infinite hell designed just for them.

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