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    TLC's "The Lottery Changed My Life" is playing now and it reminds me of a question i wondered about before but never did anything about: what options do we have since hawaii doesn't have a lottery? i mean, can we legally buy lottery tickets online? do they require residency in the state where the lottery is offered? etc.

    just wondering....
    525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure, measure a year?

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    Re: Lottery: options for hawaii?

    Rhode Island's lottery prohibits ticket sales via the USPS (or any other common carrier), but it has no residency restrictions on who can buy one in person. A Hawaii resident can legally buy a RI lottery ticket if s/he happens to be in state, and as a purchaser of a lottery ticket, would be fully eligible for any prizes the ticket could potentially win. Massachusetts and Connecticut residents frequently win RI lottery prizes. Additionally, there is nothing to stop me, a private individual, from sending you a RI lottery ticket or Powerball (high-stakes multi-state lottery) ticket. Should the ticket I send you be a winner, there are no rules in place that would prohibit you (a Hawaii resident) from claiming the prize.

    Also: I was at Chicago's O'Hare Airport earlier this month, and the Illinois Lottery has a couple of kiosks where travellers, regardless of where they are from, can buy Illinois Lottery tickets.

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    • #3
      Re: Lottery: options for hawaii?

      There's always Vegas!

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        Originally posted by Surfingfarmboy View Post
        Rhode Island's lottery prohibits ticket sales via the USPS (or any other common carrier), but it has no residency restrictions on who can buy one in person. A Hawaii resident can legally buy a RI lottery ticket if s/he happens to be in state, and as a purchaser of a lottery ticket, would be fully eligible for any prizes the ticket could potentially win. Massachusetts and Connecticut residents frequently win RI lottery prizes. Additionally, there is nothing to stop me, a private individual, from sending you a RI lottery ticket or Powerball (high-stakes multi-state lottery) ticket. Should the ticket I send you be a winner, there are no rules in place that would prohibit you (a Hawaii resident) from claiming the prize.

        Also: I was at Chicago's O'Hare Airport earlier this month, and the Illinois Lottery has a couple of kiosks where travellers, regardless of where they are from, can buy Illinois Lottery tickets.
        thanks for the reply and sorry i didn't reply sooner. if you regularly buy RI lottery tickets or powerball tickets, would you be interested in a small, regular pool? (actually, i'm not sure how much those tickets cost but since it's obviously a long shot, i'd only be interested in the minimal investment, e.g., one ticket) of course, if anyone else here would be interested in a small pool, that'd be great too and if you don't have an interest in something like that, i can totally understand that, too. thanks.
        525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure, measure a year?

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          Originally posted by i-hungry View Post
          There's always Vegas!
          ha! yeah, that's true but i've only been to vegas once (a long time ago) and i haven't had a desire to return since (tho i totally understand why it's such a popular place). i like the idea of a lottery (although i wish they'd give something like 50 million people $2,000,000 instead of giving one person $100,000,000) and while the odds are incredibly small, some lucky person is going to hit the jackpot!
          525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure, measure a year?

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            Re: Lottery: options for hawaii?

            A favorite subject of mine!

            I play the lotto in Texas, in fact I play the Texas one and the mega Millions, I think it's called that a lot of states are in, along with Texas. No, can't order them online. They have to be bought in person in the state of Texas but anyone can win, you don't have to live in Texas.

            However.....it is illegal to have possession of a lottery ticket here in Hawaii, so I don't have my sister mail them to me, but we go in halves and have done so for almost ten years, and since I can trust her totally, I know that if our ticket wins that I fly there, she and I see an attorney to set up a partnership so that we can both claim our half and it be cool with the IRS. (otherwise, if just one person claims the ticket, then that person owes taxes for GIVING more than ten grand to the other, such a ripoff)

            I am playing in the Florida lotto right now, ticket good through Halloween. we had fun with this one. My daughter flew to Orlando for a vacation, bought the ticket for she, me and my sis in Texas, she then mailed said ticket to my sis after having signed it, and sis holds it and if it wins we all three meet in Tallahassee. LOL...fun subject....

            PS...ooops, I just read the other posters' replies here. No! You can't have anyone in Rhode Island or any other state mail you a ticket, well you CAN but you are definitely breaking the law if you do and are caught, and I am not kidding. You play through other people, folks in any state that you definitely can trust. You can even pick the numbers instead of quick pick and you tell them which numbers to buy, and then you can play along by checking the numbers online, but you only win if you can trust that person which shouldn't be a problem for most any person....surely we all have SOMEbody we trust and rightly so, on the mainland.
            Last edited by Karen; September 27, 2007, 01:46 AM.
            Stop being lost in thought where our problems thrive.~

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              Originally posted by Karen View Post
              However.....it is illegal to have possession of a lottery ticket here in Hawaii,
              First I've heard of that. I knew there's issues about how you obtain it, but I haven't heard that just possession is illegal. But it as far as I can interpret §712-1224 Possession of gambling records in the first degree, that could be true.
              Last edited by GeckoGeek; September 27, 2007, 08:27 AM.

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                Re: Lottery: options for hawaii?

                Originally posted by Karen View Post
                A favorite subject of mine!

                I play the lotto in Texas, in fact I play the Texas one and the mega Millions,...

                However.....it is illegal to have possession of a lottery ticket here in Hawaii, so I don't have my sister mail them to me, ....

                I am playing in the Florida lotto right now, ticket good through Halloween. we had fun with this one.....
                PS...ooops, I just read the other posters' replies here. No! You can't have anyone in Rhode Island or any other state mail you a ticket, well you CAN but you are definitely breaking the law if you do and are caught, and I am not kidding. You play through other people, folks in any state that you definitely can trust.
                Karen, I Cyber Citizen's Arrest YOU!

                It is ILLEGAL to Play!

                Auntie Lynn
                Be AKAMAI ~ KOKUA Hawai`i!
                Philippians 4:13 --- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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                  Obtaining lottery tickets (be they be ones from RI or Massachusetts) for you, shaveice, would be an easy task for me. There are dozens of dealers on both sides of the border (I live about 3 miles from the RI/MA border) who sell the daily number games, instant scratch tickets, Powerball Tickets, Mega Million Tickets, and the every-5-minute Keno games. Shoots, most conv. stores around here are virtual casinos, with special Keno lounges where one can gamble all day in comfort if s/he chooses to do so. So me purchasing a lottery ticket on your behalf would pose absolutely no problem for me...in fact there is a conv. store 1 minute from me that has every lottery game offered by RILOT.

                  Just a quick primer here on the long odds player face in winning the Grand Prize in Powerball:

                  Powerball tickets, which are the tickets that have the highest jackpot payout, (min. Grand Prize $15 million) and which in order to hit the grand prize requires that a player hit 5 numbers correctly from a pool of (I think) 52 (maybe 54) numbers and one "Powerball" out of a pool of 42, cost $1. The odds of hitting all of the numbers as required is something like (roughly) 1 in 142 million. Despite the long odds, players do win. RI had a 32 million dollar winner not too long ago. Powerball offers other runner-up prizes as well, ranging from (again, I think) $200,000 to $3. (If you hit at least the Powerball, [a 1 in 42 shot on a $1 play], you win $3) It's also common for more than one player to hit the winning grand prize numbers...sometimes 2 and 3 players will hit the winning combination, in that event the grand prize is split among themselves.

                  BTW, when a lottery agency announces that the Grand Prize, say in Powerball or Mega Millions is, (for example) $200 million, that $200 million figure is the estimated value of an long-term annuity. Powerball bases it grand prize on a 25 year annuity. If a grand prize winner elects to take a "lump-sum" payment..all of the funds that would have purchased an annuity that would have paid out $200 million in 25 years...then the pay out is far less...usually 45 to 50% of the stated grand prize. 90 to 100 million dollars in one-lump sum? Not a bad pay out..of course, you'd have to deal with mega-taxes from the Feds, Rhode Island, and I suppose Hawaii would want its cut at well.

                  In any event, I could play the minimum for you, easily...it would cost you $2 a week...Powerball draws are every Wednesday and Saturday nights. You could pick your numbers...in fact you can play them as far in advance as maybe 3 months..maybe longer. And you could check the winning numbers on line at www.rilot.com.

                  Just a side note: Should you really want to play, (despite the long odds) I would be able to play for you through the end of December. After December, I'll be off on my annual winter farming tour in the Caribbean. (Looks like I'll be replanting part of the banana crop in Martinique this year; Martinique lost all its banana and sugar crop when Hurricane Dean plowed through last summer). I'd have to get you a long term ticket (a 3 month one) while I'm down there, should you be interested in playing through me.

                  Nevertheless, I could buy you tickets on a regular basis, and hold them as well for you, in order to avoid the potential legal issues of a Hawaii resident possessing a lottery ticket. Oh yes, plenty of HT members in Hawaii could vouch for me. I'm a pretty honest kind of farmboy.

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                    Re: Lottery: options for hawaii?

                    LOL Auntie, bring on the 'cuffs.

                    It's only illegal to have possession of them. We live in America, not Russia and Hawaii can't keep us from buying any amount of tickets through another, and claiming the prize. I assure you that this money-grabbing state will take every penny of the taxes it can upon a winner that lives here claiming a ticket in any state.

                    You can play, too!

                    Here's my fav numbers.....5,12, 19, 21, 36, and 42.

                    Surfingfarmboy, sometimes the "cash advance" is a bit over fifty percent. It depends on the bond market or something like that, at the time of the win. I never play for annuity for only for cash up front, but Florida revamped it's lotto in the past ten years and now one can choose which option even after winning, but it has to be soon after. Not in Texas! Gotta choose as you buy the ticket. Don't know how California is now, but I played there plenty and even after I moved here, and had the fun of helping to vote the lottery into law in California way back in the early eighties.
                    Stop being lost in thought where our problems thrive.~

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                      Re: Lottery: options for hawaii?

                      It's ILLEGAL!!!

                      Hawaii Gambling Laws
                      http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/Hawaii/

                      Hawaii Statutes

                      "6) "Lottery" means a gambling scheme in which:
                      (a) The players pay or agree to pay something of value for chances, represented and differentiated by numbers or by combinations of numbers or by some other medium, one or more of which chances are to be designated the winning ones; and
                      (b) The winning chances are to be determined by a drawing or by some other method based on an element of chance; and
                      (c) The holders of the winning chances are to receive something of value."

                      Ainokea. It's your $$$ and your okoles.

                      Auntie Lynn
                      Be AKAMAI ~ KOKUA Hawai`i!
                      Philippians 4:13 --- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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                        surfer, that'd be cool! i'll pm you later.

                        i have no illusions about the odds; i just think the small cost is worth the possible payoff and if nothing comes of it, which is very likely, it's okay.
                        525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure, measure a year?

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                          Originally posted by shaveice View Post
                          surfer, that'd be cool! i'll pm you later.

                          i have no illusions about the odds; i just think the small cost is worth the possible payoff and if nothing comes of it, which is very likely, it's okay.
                          I use to be a heavy gambler. One who took chances. Now if I like gamble (cough, cough), I go to Las Vegas. Moa betta to put aside a certain amount knowing you going "lose um" den wishful thinking you going "win um." The reality of it all is gamblers always come out LOSERS.

                          Lottery is the same in essence. First you start off small. Den it engulfs you. Little by little you think you can hit the Big one. Greed. Amazingly, the winners are always people who are humble. Yep! People who deserve to win...not ones who are greedy. Givers so to speak.

                          I wish each of you good luck and may you find what you seek.

                          Please don't forget those who are less fortunate than you when you hit the jackpot!

                          Auntie Lynn
                          Be AKAMAI ~ KOKUA Hawai`i!
                          Philippians 4:13 --- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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                            Auntie, yes it's ILLEGAL...IN Hawaii! Hawaii cannot arrest or have any control over a person sending money to someone else in another state, be it for their birthday gift, a boat, or a lottery ticket! Anyone that lives in Hawaii can play a lottery through....a person in another state. I do it all of the time and don't care who knows it.

                            You are so right about some people being obsessive and can't control their games, shopping, etc.

                            I play fifty cents per game, four times a week, which is two dollars a week. When the ticket wins five or ninety dollars, doesn't matter I let sis keep it for her trouble of time, gas and getting the darn things, but then they have advance play where she can only have to buy a ticket every five weeks, as you can play each game ten advance plays, and then just put it away.

                            I've never had a compulsive problem and I don't even go to a movie theater but a once a year, maybe. It's been more than a year now...two Harry Potter movies ago, or something. It's legal, fun and a tiny hobby of mine.
                            Stop being lost in thought where our problems thrive.~

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                              Re: Lottery: options for hawaii?

                              Originally posted by Surfingfarmboy View Post
                              Rhode Island's lottery prohibits ticket sales via the USPS (or any other common carrier), but it has no residency restrictions on who can buy one in person. A Hawaii resident can legally buy a RI lottery ticket if s/he happens to be in state, and as a purchaser of a lottery ticket, would be fully eligible for any prizes the ticket could potentially win. Massachusetts and Connecticut residents frequently win RI lottery prizes. Additionally, there is nothing to stop me, a private individual, from sending you a RI lottery ticket or Powerball (high-stakes multi-state lottery) ticket. Should the ticket I send you be a winner, there are no rules in place that would prohibit you (a Hawaii resident) from claiming the prize.

                              Also: I was at Chicago's O'Hare Airport earlier this month, and the Illinois Lottery has a couple of kiosks where travellers, regardless of where they are from, can buy Illinois Lottery tickets.
                              If memory serves, the catch 22 is that you have to be in the state (over 18 or legal gambling age) in order to win. You have to go to the Lottery Headquarters personally to claim the amount if it is over $20,000. That's how it is with PowerBall.

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