Hawai'i Superferry - Chapter 4

[mel]

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Check for AC outlets. Something to plug the ol' laptop in. 3 hours can drain a battery!

[scrivener]

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Would you be allowed to stay in your vehicle, if you wanted?

[Miulang]

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Check for AC outlets. Something to plug the ol' laptop in. 3 hours can drain a battery!

According to this blogger who took a tour (and pictures) of Alakai, it appears that the only AC outlets he observed were in the 1st class section:

First class is the only place where I saw accessible AC outlets, and these were few and far between. We saw perhaps 4 or 5 work carrels in this cabin. At least the few outlets that we found didn’t have a meter attached to them, as they now do at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport. Anyone who wants to watch a movie on their laptop needs to board the Superferry early or make sure they charged their battery.

Hmmm... the blogger also wrote that it appears there will be no internet access either, which would be a major gaffe, since 3 hours is an awful long time for a person used to being able to go work on their laptop whle travelling not to be able to surf electronically or email!

Miulang

[helen]

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Would you be allowed to stay in your vehicle, if you wanted?

No you can not. If you need to get to your car during the trip you need to be escorted by a crew member during the time you accessed your vehicle.

Hmmm... the blogger also wrote that it appears there will be no internet access either, which would be a major gaffe, since 3 hours is an awful long time for a person used to being able to go work on their laptop whle travelling not to be able to surf electronically or email!

I wouldn't need or expect to have internet access while on the Superferry but it will be nice to work on a laptop doing noninternet things without worrying about the battery.

[zff]

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Does anyone know how your car is insured if the ferry sinks? Would your no-fault cover that or would Hawaii SuperFerry?

If it's the ferry's responsibility, is there some kind of dollar limit of coverage per car? Let's say your $350,000 Ferrari was on the ferry when it sank. Do you only get back $100,000 or something like that?

I hoping someone here already knows the answer and can save me a bit of legwork.

Thanks.

[Miulang]

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Does anyone know how your car is insured if the ferry sinks? Would your no-fault cover that or would Hawaii SuperFerry?

If it's the ferry's responsibility, is there some kind of dollar limit of coverage per car? Let's say your $350,000 Ferrari was on the ferry when it sank. Do you only get back $100,000 or something like that?

I hoping someone here already knows the answer and can save me a bit of legwork.

Thanks.

Here's a partial explanation, as outlined in Tariff 1A that was submitted by HSF to the HPUC:

Insurance. The following types of insurance will be carried at current industry levels and as specified by the Hawaii Public Utilities Commission: Hull and machinery, protection and indemnity, pollution liability, excess marine liability, and comprehensive general liability insurance,

And this section on limited liability:

Limited Liability
Carrier shall not be liable in any capacity for any loss, damage, detention, delay, occurring during such time, arising from, caused by, or, in Carrier's judgment, rendered necessary or advisable by reason of, any declared or undeclared war, act of God, perils, dangers and accidents of the sea or other navigable waters, force majeure, weather delay, act, neglect, or default of the Master, mariner, pilot or the servants of the carrier in the navigation or in the management of the ship, fires latent defects not discoverable by
due diligence, any other cause arising without the actual fault and privity of the carrier, hostilities, war-like operations, revolutions, sabotage, malicious acts, theft, embezzlement, pilferage, strikes, lockouts, work stoppages, slowdowns or labor disturbances or restraints of whatsoever nature, whether general or partial, and regardless of who are the promoters thereof, whether involving the officers or crew of the Vessel or others, or from any other risk or cause whatever, not included in the foregoing, and whether similar or dissimilar thereto, unless the party asserting the claim shall prove
that such risk or cause was one within Carrier's control and that the loss, damage, detention delay, nondelivery, misdelivery, or conversion was due to Carrier's negligence. Except as otherwise required by applicable laws and/or regulations, Carrier shall not be liable for the loss of, or damage to, of any baggage such as fragile or perishable articles, currency or coin, bank bills, deeds, jewelry, business documents, drafts or valuable papers, postage or revenue stamps or legal papers with such stamps affixed, precious
metals or stones or articles manufactured therefrom or other articles of extraordinary value or any articles, which are transported by Customer whether with or without the knowledge of the Carrier.
Neither Carrier nor Agent shall not be liable for injury or damage caused by Customer or Customer's Vehicle or caused by other Customers or other Customer's Vehicles. Customer shall defend, indemnify and hold Carrier and Agent harmless for injuries or damages arising out of Customer's conduct or errors or omissions. In no event shall Carrier be liable for amounts greater than the loss actually sustained nor shall Carrier be liable for incidental or consequential damages arising from any cause whatsoever, even if Carrier has been advised of the possibility of same.

One other interesting part of the tariff is the formula they are using to calculate the fuel surcharge.

Miulang

[LikaNui]

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Hmmm... the blogger also wrote that it appears there will be no internet access either, which would be a major gaffe, since 3 hours is an awful long time for a person used to being able to go work on their laptop whle travelling not to be able to surf electronically or email!

First of all, not everybody is addicted to the internet like certain people seem to be. "3 hours is an awful long time"? Sorry, but that's addiction, pure and simple.
And do you believe everything you read on anyone's blog? Well, get this -- I'm telling you right now that tomorrow the sun will rise in the west! Spread the word!
But far more outrageous is your claim that it would be a "major gaffe". First, because you're implying (once again!) that the SuperFerry folks are mental midgets who didn't have the foresight to think about internet access until you, the omnipotent Miulang, thought of it... which is nothing short of ludicrous. They're spending hundreds of millions of dollars, the ship is equipped with the ultimate in state-of-the-art electronics and communications gear... and you have the audacity -- the unmitigated gall -- to accuse them of not thinking about it?!?
As usual, Miulang, YOU ARE 100% WRONG. You made a wild claim without taking one single minute to check the FACTS.
Fortunately for the rest of us, I did.
Here is what a SuperFerry official just wrote to me:

"Superferry will have free WiFi access, although we cannot guarantee access throughout the entire passage.
"Similarly your cell phone will work throughout most of the journey.
"We are using the latest high-gain (1 million gain) cellular antennas so the ship is effectively its own cell-site. Internet access is via EVDO wireless broadband."

So are you going to be decent enough to apologize, or what?

[Miulang]

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First of all, not everybody is addicted to the internet like certain people seem to be. "3 hours is an awful long time"? Sorry, but that's addiction, pure and simple.
And do you believe everything you read on anyone's blog? Well, get this -- I'm telling you right now that tomorrow the sun will rise in the west! Spread the word!
But far more outrageous is your claim that it would be a "major gaffe". First, because you're implying (once again!) that the SuperFerry folks are mental midgets who didn't have the foresight to think about internet access until you, the omnipotent Miulang, thought of it... which is nothing short of ludicrous. They're spending hundreds of millions of dollars, the ship is equipped with the ultimate in state-of-the-art electronics and communications gear... and you have the audacity -- the unmitigated gall -- to accuse them of not thinking about it?!?
As usual, Miulang, YOU ARE 100% WRONG. You made a wild claim without taking one single minute to check the FACTS.
Fortunately for the rest of us, I did.
Here is what a SuperFerry official just wrote to me:

"Superferry will have free WiFi access, although we cannot guarantee access throughout the entire passage.
"Similarly your cell phone will work throughout most of the journey.
"We are using the latest high-gain (1 million gain) cellular antennas so the ship is effectively its own cell-site. Internet access is via EVDO wireless broadband."

So are you going to be decent enough to apologize, or what?

The info that I posted came from the tariff and from the blog. If you got the word directly from the horse, then it's good that HSF did some fast corrections. One thing in their tariff does say that the AC power isn't protected, so if something gets fried while connected to their power supply, they won't assume any responsibility for damages.

Miulang

[Palolo Joe]

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So are you going to be decent enough to apologize, or what?

Guess not.

The info that I posted came from the tariff and from the blog. If you got the word directly from the horse, then it's good that HSF did some fast corrections. One thing in their tariff does say that the AC power isn't protected, so if something gets fried while connected to their power supply, they won't assume any responsibility for damages.

Just more excuses and attempts to spin the conversation in a different direction.

What a surprise.

As long as I can get cell service, I'll have Internet access. I'm not worried at all.

[LikaNui]

The info that I posted came from the tariff and from the blog.

Don't change the subject! We are NOT talking about insurance -- we're talking about INTERNET ACCESS. Don't try to obfuscate. It will not work here.

If you got the word directly from the horse, then it's good that HSF did some fast corrections.

"Fast corrections"?!? What the heck is wrong with you??? You think that overnight they made some miraculous upgrade and purchased and installed hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment in less than 24 hours because of YOU?
That's possibly the most ludicrous thing you've ever written!
"Fast corrections", my a**.

One thing in their tariff does say that the AC power isn't protected, so if something gets fried while connected to their power supply, they won't assume any responsibility for damages.

So freaking what? Those kind of disclaimers are standard in every single contract on the planet!

GET A GRIP.

(patiently waiting for answers)

[Leo Lakio]

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So...

Next time somebody chats with the SF folks, I'd be curious to find out if they ever decided to use Muzak's Hawaiian music program on board.

The program I did for the last several years (but not no mo.)

[Palolo Joe]

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I hope not. They can get better canned music from local sources.

And LN, you won't get answers... it's all about spinning the conversation to take the attention away from the fact that she was WRONG.

Again.

[Karen]

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I enjoyed KSSK's six to ten AM drive today. It sounded like Perry and Price had a blast on the ferry, and it was especially funny to hear them joke about all of the room "big people" have on the ferry vs. flying on an airplane.

Were any of you part of their live audience on the thing, today?

[helen]

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So was the ferry docked during the entire show this morning or did they take a small cruise?

[pzarquon]

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I don't think the Superferry can move again, really, without all the Ts crossed and Is dotted. It sure is an imposing site at that pier. If the ferry business doesn't work out, they should leave it there permanently and turn it into a fancy restaurant.

And, I admit, I don't like to go more than three hours with internet access. It's my job, and what I do for fun. (Can you tell?) That's why I have an EVDO modem. I don't think there's cell service between islands, though, is there? Most certainly not data service. Even so, I'll live. One of the major reasons for going by sea, rather by air, is the overall experience. I plan to simply enjoy the journey... at least the first couple of times!