Britney Finished?

[cynsaligia]

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I would say the same about Kevin Federline - only his track record with regards to children leads me to believe it's better that he NOT be involved in their upbringing.

It's rather hard to argue against your first point since, as you noted, without them being "outed," we have no way of knowing whether they are out clubbing or not. But how many male celebs would go out in public sans underwear, knowing full well that they might get photographed showing their wares?

Look at Ms. Spears behavior since her career took off. She craves the publicity; it's her drug. Sorry - she won't earn my sympathy until she behaves as if she does not want to be in the spotlight.

And it's not just her. There are plenty of low-talent hacks foisted on us, male and female, who I would like to ignore - but I don't really wanna live in a cave in Afghanistan, so I accept that I will see & hear of their follies --- but you can't make me care about their downfalls.

leo, i wasn't trying to "make you care" about them, nor be sympathetic. duh, i'm smart enough to know i can't "make" anyone do anything they don't want to, especially on something like a discussion board. i was merely pointing out that given female celebs and male celebs who have reached a certain level of fame/notoriety (whether deserved or not), the male celebs are likely to get a pass that the females don't.

as for male celebs who go out not wearing underwear? i distinctly remember eminem, himself a parent, going out and flashing not just the back side but the front side--not just "knowing full well" that he might be photographed, but purposely to the paparazzi. when he did it, he didn't get anywhere near the same amount of finger-wagging and tsktsking britney did. i mean, this guy did a song about killing his wife, and yes, i will heartily admit he got flack for it, but nowhere near the kind of negative press that britney does. and where, where? did she write lyrics so incendiary as eminem's?

oh, and how many generations are there of male rockers have given drug addled, piss-poor, incoherent performances? these same guys sometimes not only had children, but had children by several different women, and did not marry them. yet we don't hear about those unless we see the stories, years later, on vh-1's "behind the music."



yep. still pissed about the double standard.

[Leo Lakio]

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i wonder how many male celebs (with or without children) go out clubbing and drinking etc. etc. but, in contrast to female celebs, never get outed by paparazzi. i can't think of any male celebs who are followed with such passionate doggedness as spears, lohan, et al. are. yet, i can't imagine that it's only the females who are acting so scandalously.

I would say the same about Kevin Federline - only his track record with regards to children leads me to believe it's better that he NOT be involved in their upbringing.

It's rather hard to argue against your first point since, as you noted, without them being "outed," we have no way of knowing whether they are out clubbing or not. But how many male celebs would go out in public sans underwear, knowing full well that they might get photographed showing their wares?

Look at Ms. Spears behavior since her career took off. She craves the publicity; it's her drug. Sorry - she won't earn my sympathy until she behaves as if she does not want to be in the spotlight.

And it's not just her. There are plenty of low-talent hacks foisted on us, male and female, who I would like to ignore - but I don't really wanna live in a cave in Afghanistan, so I accept that I will see & hear of their follies --- but you can't make me care about their downfalls.

[Kalei99]

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I echo Scrivener's sentiments. I'm not a big fan of Britney's music (I'm more of a rocker than not) but I believe that people are so quick to judge. Let the girl be. There's so much negativity out there. Rarely do you hear about the good things that people do -- we usually focus on the negative or point out the "bad" things about one's performance.
I say "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Matthew 7:1
Just MHO.

~Kalei~

[Kalihiboy]

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I'm trying to recall if Debbie has suffered the same downward spiral as Britney but I can't.

She has moved on from her "bubblegum pop star" days and into broadway musicals. FWIW, at least she's doing good.

Tiffany OTOH, has her ups and down, which includes posing for Playboy and putting extra junk in her trunk but she's a non-partying mother now.

As I recall Tiffany was one of the very last acts to play at the old Gussie Lamours (sp?) out by the airport.

Deborah Gibson never posed in PLAYBOY? I'm sure she has been offered many times as has Britney Spears.

Aj

[Random]

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Britney who?

Like Elvis, I will fondly remember the young, vibrant skinny version.

[Random]

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Whither Debbie Gibson?

I'm trying to recall if Debbie has suffered the same downward spiral as Britney but I can't.

She has moved on from her "bubblegum pop star" days and into broadway musicals. FWIW, at least she's doing good.

Tiffany OTOH, has her ups and down, which includes posing for Playboy and putting extra junk in her trunk but she's a non-partying mother now.

Somebody have got to stage an intervention on Britney, that includes terminating her leeching entourage that are encouraging her partying ways.

[Pua'i Mana'o]

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put me in the group that has no real curiosity on how she chooses to conduct her personal life. But if one looks up any clips of B.S. performing live, one has to see how consistently, over the span of her career, she worked her ass off on stage to give high intensity performances. In comparison, it is hard not to be disappointed with her stint on the 2007 VMAs.

I forgive her for having bad fashion sense when she knows full well that her outfit would be scrutinized no matter what it was. But to give a lazy live performance when you tell me "it's Britney, bitch!" Awheeeellllllno!

[Pomai]

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for the record, pomai, i didn't call you sexist. i was only expressing my disgust at how what you said is likely true and that it's another example of women hating on women or at least relishing another woman's misery/failings as a way to feel good about themselves. sucks assdookie on a stick.

for the other record, it's not "i could care less," it's "i couldn't care less."

I know you weren't saying that. I'm just covering my butt.

[cynsaligia]

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I risked saying that in fear of being labeled a sexist. But it's the plain hard fact.

My girlfriend is a major HOUND of tabloid gossip. She has the TV channel on E!, VH-1... wherever there's something said about a celeb', she's watching it. So is the same for my mother. She buys Enquirer, Star, and all that other supermarket checkout tabloids trash. Which is exactly what it is. I get on her case all time about that.

Don't get me wrong. I love you ladies with all my heart. Just saying.

As far as Britney, Paris France, Brangelina, or any other cover story on Enquirer or E!, I could care less. Pass me the remote.

for the record, pomai, i didn't call you sexist. i was only expressing my disgust at how what you said is likely true and that it's another example of women hating on women or at least relishing another woman's misery/failings as a way to feel good about themselves. sucks assdookie on a stick.

for the other record, it's not "i could care less," it's "i couldn't care less."

[Pomai]

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this is just more proof of how life is far from equal for men and women--even for those who are celebs. it disgusts me that pomai is likely right, too--that women are the biggest consumers of paparazzi-produced crap. so, more "crab syndrome" (go see the women in a man's world thread if you need an explanation for that).

pisses me off to no end.

I risked saying that in fear of being labeled a sexist. But it's the plain hard fact.

My girlfriend is a major HOUND of tabloid gossip. She has the TV channel on E!, VH-1... wherever there's something said about a celeb', she's watching it. So is the same for my mother. She buys Enquirer, Star, and all that other supermarket checkout tabloids trash. Which is exactly what it is. I get on her case all time about that.

Don't get me wrong. I love you ladies with all my heart. Just saying.

As far as Britney, Paris France, Brangelina, or any other cover story on Enquirer or E!, I could care less. Pass me the remote.

[scrivener]

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i wonder how many male celebs (with or without children) go out clubbing and drinking etc. etc. but, in contrast to female celebs, never get outed by paparazzi. i can't think of any male celebs who are followed with such passionate doggedness as spears, lohan, et al. are. yet, i can't imagine that it's only the females who are acting so scandalously.

For a few years, it seemed like Charlie Sheen was the guy, but even at its worst, it was never like this.

if we do, it's never with the vehemence we spend on spears, etc.

I think you bring up a good point I've never considered. Women celebrities DO seem to be held to different standards. There was the Alex Rodriguez thing, but that seemed to be a big deal only in New York. Tom Brady, Pac-Man Jones, Michael Vick, and David Beckham get a fair amount of scrutiny, but I watch sports talk shows and maybe they don't get nearly as much coverage in mainstream media. Hm.

[cynsaligia]

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If Ms. Spears would like a life free of scrutiny, she could start by staying off television and focusing instead on creating a "normal" environment for her children. But that's obviously not what she wants, so that's not what she'll get - I shed no tears for her.

i wonder how many male celebs (with or without children) go out clubbing and drinking etc. etc. but, in contrast to female celebs, never get outed by paparazzi. i can't think of any male celebs who are followed with such passionate doggedness as spears, lohan, et al. are. yet, i can't imagine that it's only the females who are acting so scandalously.

when have we ever said of a famous man, "if mr. so and so would like a life free of scrutiny....he should stay home with his kids." i mean, we usually don't hear about male celebs' hard partying until they've been arrested and ramble on about how jews are the bane of the universe or fall down dead on the sidewalk fronting the viper room because of a drug or alcohol OD. even then, we don't say, "what the hell was he doing out drinking like a wanton bachelor? how come he wasn't home with his wife and kids??!!" if we do, it's never with the vehemence we spend on spears, etc.

i know i'm going kinda off topic, but this is just more proof of how life is far from equal for men and women--even for those who are celebs. it disgusts me that pomai is likely right, too--that women are the biggest consumers of paparazzi-produced crap. so, more "crab syndrome" (go see the women in a man's world thread if you need an explanation for that).

pisses me off to no end.

[LikaNui]

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Go directly to MTV.com. They have it there (with just a short commercial before it).

Thanks, I think. Found it at this link. Fairly underwhelming. The Taco Bell commercial was more interesting, personally. But the audience gave her a pretty good round of applause at the end. Not sure why so many (and I don't mean here on HT) are jumping on the Destroy Britney bandwagon.
Hell, she's young. And she's worth $150 million, as I recall. She doesn't need the kind of BS she's being dealt. She needs some guidance in making better life and career choices, is all.

[Leo Lakio]

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Who among us would want to live under the intense microscope she does? Where every single minute of her life is scrutinized and pseudo-analyzed by evil paparazzi.

People like that need the paparazzi to survive. Without tabloids and so-called "reality" TV, dozens of today's celebrities would be living in obscurity. And that might just be a blessing, as we consumers might not be force-fed the crap that the media conglomerates want us to swallow - and could instead focus on people with actual talent. If Ms. Spears would like a life free of scrutiny, she could start by staying off television and focusing instead on creating a "normal" environment for her children. But that's obviously not what she wants, so that's not what she'll get - I shed no tears for her.

[Pomai]

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Amen to that!!! Who among us would want to live under the intense microscope she does? Where every single minute of her life is scrutinized and pseudo-analyzed by evil paparazzi.
If I was King Of The World, paparazzi would be eliminated totally.

But then you'd have to eliminate women, who are the primary demographic of tabloids and other mediums of celebrity gossip, who in turn pay the paparazzi for the journalistic content they need.

It's a vicious cycle.